1883Bg Penny ??

[Cliff 45]

Help please.  Is the attached an example of Gouby 1883Bg (page 80 of his "The British Bronze Penny"?  If not, would welcome your suggestions please.

Thanls

Cliff

Will try and attach full side shots

 

 

 

 

 

[terrysoldpennies 763]

Hi Cliff, it does look like the example shown in Goubys book, I would suggest the cause my be die clash , hence its appearance on coins of differing years.

Edited March 4, 2018 by terrysoldpennies

[Cliff 45]

Full pics as promised.

Cliff

[Cliff 45]

Thanks Terry.  Sorry about dinner plate sized pics, something gone adrift somewhere (suspect the "something" is me!).

Cliff

[davidrj 194]

Seems quite common for a variety of years and reverse dies, always in the same place which suggests a rare bur regular glitch in the minting machinery.

some I've found -

[davidrj 194]

Here's another, a bit more dramatic

 

[Cliff 45]

45 minutes ago, davidrj said:

Seems quite common for a variety of years and reverse dies, always in the same place which suggests a rare bur regular glitch in the minting machinery.

some I've found -

Thanks for the pics and the comment davidrj

I have several other year examples and, whilst talking with PWA 1967 (Pete,) he tells me that every year between 1874 to 1894 have examples of this left of date LC feature.

I've seen an article seemingly agreeing with your "glitch in the machinery" comment. It suggests the feature may be the result of rogue"hammer die machinery" being slightly out of alignment and an edge repeatedly hitting planchets in the exact same spot over the years. I'm trying to re-locate the article so that I can quote it more accurately and give the author due recognition.

Cliff