1908 F164

[Bronze & Copper Collector 417]

I just received my packet back from NGC.

Here is the F164a after conservation and slabbing

 

Edited February 25, 2020 by Bronze & Copper Collector

[Bronze & Copper Collector 417]

and the reverse

Edited February 25, 2020 by Bronze & Copper Collector

[terrysoldpennies 791]

Nice one Gary, I must confess I didn't think it would get a 63 .

[Peckris 2 2,192]

11 hours ago, Bronze & Copper Collector said:

I just received my packet back from NGC.

Here is the F164a after conservation and slabbing

 

Nice one. 😋 Pity about the slab...

[Bronze & Copper Collector 417]

2 hours ago, terrysoldpennies said:

Nice one Gary, I must confess I didn't think it would get a 63 .

Neither did I....

I also submitted a spotted 1971 Israel 10 lirot Let my people go Bern mint, Mintage 80. It came back proof-68...

No complaints there either

[mrbadexample 1,006]

On 2/9/2020 at 9:41 AM, mrbadexample said:

There's a nice F164 lurking in lot 646 at the forthcoming DNW sale.

Now here.

[1949threepence 3,368]

23 minutes ago, mrbadexample said:

Now here.

I think that's about what I paid for mine. 

Incidentally, The Coin KIng (real name Nathan Smith) is a good trustworthy dealer. I've had some nice 20th century pennies off him. 

[mrbadexample 1,006]

Just now, 1949threepence said:

I think that's about what I paid for mine. 

Incidentally, The Coin KIng (real name Nathan Smith) is a good trustworthy dealer. I've had some nice 20th century pennies off him. 

Yes, I've bought from him before.

[Sword 1,516]

3 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

Incidentally, The Coin KIng (real name Nathan Smith) is a good trustworthy dealer. I've had some nice 20th century pennies off him. 

I have brought from him too and he is indeed a very decent dealer. 

But personally, I would prefer if he grades his coins conventionally using UNC, EF etc. rather than his own scale of "superb - very nice - nice". I know buyers should be able to grade for themselves but I would like the seller's opinion nonetheless. 

[mrbadexample 1,006]

17 minutes ago, Sword said:

But personally, I would prefer if he grades his coins conventionally using UNC, EF etc. rather than his own scale of "superb - very nice - nice". I know buyers should be able to grade for themselves but I would like the seller's opinion nonetheless. 

That doesn't bother me, I don't think it's worth giving a grade on ebay - you just open yourself up to disputes. 

[1949threepence 3,368]

47 minutes ago, Sword said:

I have brought from him too and he is indeed a very decent dealer. 

But personally, I would prefer if he grades his coins conventionally using UNC, EF etc. rather than his own scale of "superb - very nice - nice". I know buyers should be able to grade for themselves but I would like the seller's opinion nonetheless. 

Yes, ideally he would. But I think some dealers, especially on e bay, prefer not to grade, lest they get panned by those who disagree. We've all seen it on here, and some of it assumes deliberate over grading by the dealer. I can understand why he might want to avoid that.  

This is what he says:-

 

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Guaranteed genuine, please study the photos provided and make your own opinion on grading.  

The ball is therefore wholly in the buyer's court.

[Paddy 1,861]

I agree. Putting grades on Ebay leads to lots of issues - If you grade accurately then you risk no one looking at your items as they are lost in the swill of over-graded rubbish. If you join the over-grading cult you lose credibility with the knowledgeable buyers, or enter into disputes with them. It's a no win!

 

[Unwilling Numismatist 505]

I agree with @Paddy ebay is it's own worst enemy with free listings, allowing any nobody to over-grade everything without financial impact. Joining that set is self destruction for any credible dealer or collector.

[Sword 1,516]

That's fair enough. He does provide very good photos which are of course much more useful than grades.

I know I am probably losing out, but I just don't buy from Ebay. I am more comfortable buying from dealers' own sites. 

[1949threepence 3,368]

On 4/21/2020 at 3:07 PM, mrbadexample said:

Now here.

He's now reduced the price of the same coin on his website to £107.50 - here