Cheap hammered?

[Emperor Oli 0]

Is there a hammered coin that I could get in a relatively high grade for less than say £40? I feel I need one in my collection. I'd like something fairly early (pre-1400ish). Any suggestions?

[Peter 615]

Edward 1 pennies are plentiful...as are 11,111 really.

You won't stop there though.

For £10 on Ebay you should get something niceish.

Look for an unclipped coin with a good portrait.

Try Dei Gratia (Dave and Gary)....they deal mainly with hammered,Roman (detectorist based)

Everything is identified...this will help initially.

Hammered is a science in its own right.

Larger coins you will pay big premiums especially with good portraits etc.

S2482 is a nice attractive budget (plentiful) coin.(Edward V1 shilling fine silver issue) but a nice one will cost £150+

Less than £40 you will have to stick with pennies or a borderline halfgroat.

Another option could be Charles 11 shillings but clear details on nice unclipped flans fetch high premiums....good luck.

[Sylvester 15]

Henry III and Edward I pennies can be obtained in very nice conditions for £35.

Other small coins for later periods can be got for less than £40 in acceptable conditions.

One of the nicest Edward I pennies i ever came across; (class 2b being a nice class i find) I personally don't mind the chip on it myself, struck at Bristol in 1280.

[Jon Hill 0]

Superb!, I live in Bristol and would love to find one of those with my detector, any coin struck at the medival mint here is right at the top of my wish list, even a cut half will do!

Cheers,

Jon

[Sylvester 15]

Superb!,  I live in Bristol and would love to find one of those with my detector, any coin struck at the medival mint here is right at the top of my wish list, even a cut half will do!

Cheers,

Jon

Bristol mint ones aren't uncommon and being in Bristol as you are i should think you'd have a decent chance of finding one sooner or later, probably later.

Having said that though, the London and Canterbury ones are the predominant ones.

Bury St. Edmunds and York are about the next two findable mints.

As for Reading mint well that's a whole different kettle of fish.

Lincoln would be my favourite though. The latter mint is sometimes referred to as NICOLE, however NICOLE is also a name of a moneyor, such as Nicholas of York in Henry III's reign?

I wonder if there are any NICOLE ON NICOLE coins out there?

[Peter 615]

Bury mint is difficult in good grades...I should know...my local mint...anything nice is expensive.(especially moneyer Robert de Hadelie)

Pardon the pun but there are nice pair of Bristols on Colincooke.com priced at £25 & £30.

London/Canterbury mint of similar condition should/would retail at less than £20.....I believe a bargain really.

[Sylvester 15]

Bury mint is difficult in good grades...I should know...my local mint...anything nice is expensive.(especially moneyer Robert de Hadelie)

Pardon the pun but there are nice pair of Bristols on Colincooke.com priced at £25 & £30.

London/Canterbury mint of similar condition should/would retail at less than £20.....I believe a bargain really.

They do often sell below book price in my experience, or at least below Coincraft prices. But the prices vary according to quality of strike and clipping/chipping issues.

Most mints are pricey in the higher grades. The most expensive ones of the lot are actually from the London mint, the first issue from the mint are very, very pricey indeed.

I like Edward I coinage, it's good fun to identify, near impossible sometimes, but still fun.

Now the Henries on the other hand... now they are often a nightmare to identify to a class or sometimes even a monarch.

[Sylvester 15]

Here's one i never managed to suss out;

Edward I Penny, CIVITAS LONDON, Seemingly of Class 4 or thereabouts, Class 4 what though is anyone's guess...

(Chipped flans i might be able to live with, but ghosting is something i generally try and avoid where possible, but this had such a colourful tone with it that i had to buy it)

[Sylvester 15]

Class 10A Edward I Penny, CIVITAS CANTOR (This was my first hammered coin), I must have had it about 11 years now.

[Sylvester 15]

Much cruder in style but in the same price range are Henry III Pennies of the mid-thirteenth century. Either long or short cross types.

Here is a long cross type that cost me about £25 or so, i think it was class Vg (5G not as in the grade VG just incase that confused you, it did me to begin with, i was looking all over for the class number!)

These are a heck of alot cruder in style than the recoinage types of 1279 onwards, but i kinda like them.

I love the guidelines for the halving and quartering, i'm sure this could cause problems if the coin, like this was off centre though!

These coins are often available with a very dark grey almost black tone, not unlike Edward VII farthings. I have every reason to suspect mine's been cleaned at some time. Which in hammered coins isn't so much of a crime because afterall most of them are dug out of the ground and you have to clean them so you can identify them!

[Peter 615]

Nice coins.

At least with silver 1ds a bit of battering doesn't detract too much.

Hammered isn't for the perfectionist.....How would our Yankee buddies try and grade these

Imagine one of these beauties engulfed in a blob of plastic..YUK

[Guest rob]

Nice coins.

At least with silver 1ds a bit of battering doesn't detract too much.

Hammered isn't for the perfectionist.....How would our Yankee buddies try and grade these

Imagine one of these beauties engulfed in a blob of plastic..YUK

With difficulty sometimes. About 12 months ago on ebay there was a slabbed and graded Elizabeth 1st 6th issue pound with mintmark woolpack. I pointed it out to the seller, but he didn't care because someone had bid $2500 or more on it! The grading didn't look too inaccurate, but it would help if it was identified properly. Clearly deficiencies all round.

[Jon Hill 0]

Here is my offering, one of my latest detector finds, its a cut half Henry II Tealby Penny class A or B. Is half a coin worth half the price of a whole one?

Cheers,

Jon

[Emperor Oli 0]

I found this on Andy's site - what do we think for £30? It is Henry III rather than Edward I but I thought the portrait was rather good.

[Peter 615]

Also try Gilliscoins.com

There are a few to tempt you.

Andy's coins are top notch...great to deal with aswell.

[Sylvester 15]

I found this on Andy's site - what do we think for £30? It is Henry III rather than Edward I but I thought the portrait was rather good.

That's got a very nice portrait actually!

Be warned though hammered coins are addictive... and you'll not see it coming.

[Geordie582 18]

Don't forget, hammered are common in most countries and there is a great crossover between countries,too. This makes the subject very confusing at first! This is a coin of Namur (a territory covering Belgium,France and Luxembourg and copies Edward of England coins. To complicate it even more, they were in circulation in England!

http://www.coinpeople.com/forums/album_pic...php?pic_id=4004

[Guest Guest]

The Euro isn't a new idea.

We should have kept a 25 mile wide swath of France from North to South...starting at Calais then West to Normandy,Loire,Burgundy,Dordogne...narrow it down for a bit then have 25 miles of the Med coast.

[Master Jmd 80]

I found this on Andy's site - what do we think for £30? It is Henry III rather than Edward I but I thought the portrait was rather good.

That is a very nice portrait indeed. All this talk of hammered coins is giving me the urge to buy one....hmm...maybe a sideline of Edward III hammered farthings would do nicely amoungst my milled ones!

[Peter 615]

I haven't got any Ed 111 milled farthings....Only a play on words JMD.

Come on you Tories

[Peter 615]

By the way guys..let me know the outcome of your "hammered hunt".

Caution though as there is no known cure for hammereditis

I also hope you are aware that you should only handle hammered wearing masks and gloves (Because of the plague)

[Emperor Oli 0]

All this talk of hammered coins is giving me the urge to buy one

Wonders never cease...

[Sylvester 15]

All this talk of hammered coins is giving me the urge to buy one

Wonders never cease...

I think the immortal lines from 'Allo 'Allo sums this up

LeClerc (in disguise) - "It is i, LeClerc"

Rene Artois - "I never would have guessed..."

[krasnaya_vityaz 0]

I found this on Andy's site - what do we think for £30? It is Henry III rather than Edward I but I thought the portrait was rather good.

I'd even spend my £30 for this coin, I go for a nice portrait even over edge details. This is a pretty well centered and struck.

[Geordie582 18]

A very nice coin! But most of the hammered of this time are off centre and weak so finding one like that is unusual!