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The Bee

"Penny Overs" 1865 Penny 5 over 3

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1860 Penny N over N (Z) Gouby Dd [I think !] also possible double struck R in REG

Spotted the first error quite easily but it looks as if there is a second one, well unless I've misidentified the penny in which case that'll be the 3rd error !

1860 Penny N over N (Z).jpg

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35 minutes ago, The Bee said:

Spotted the first error quite easily but it looks as if there is a second one

Yes to the first (well done again!) - and the A of Victoria may well be over another A but can't tell from the resolution of the pictures (N over Z is known both with and without A over A in Victoria.)

I think no to the second - looks like just a nick and consequent metal displacement, going along with all the other dings, bashes and nicks that the coin has sustained. Compare the base of the first T in Britt for example for similar damage.

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Many thanks Martin,

Here is a close up of the A and another picture of the R in Reg - hopefully a bit better this time

 

1860 Penny Reverse Dd N over N in One A Victoria.jpg

1860 Penny Reverse Dd N over N in One R Reg.jpg

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It's either an A/A or R/R, two different die pairs. This appears to be R/R

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27 minutes ago, Bernie said:

It's either an A/A or R/R, two different die pairs.

Thanks, Bernie - I live and learn! I knew there were 2 die pairs A over A and not, but didn't know "not" was R over R instead!

That's what you've got, Bee ! Ignore all my nonsense about dings then!

 

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Many thanks Bernie, really helpful. So at some point I will need to find an A over A. And not at all Martin , I should have posted a clearer picture earlier

I will add R over R to the description  in the tray

Very Best Regards

 

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The R over R also has a die flaw from the top of the wreath to the rim.

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Both of the N/Z obverse dies develop flaws from the top leaf Richard, but slightly different positions. Please feel free to use these pictures if you wish!!

 

N over N Sideways Obvere Flaws Predecimal.jpg

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2 hours ago, alfnail said:

Both of the N/Z obverse dies develop flaws from the top leaf Richard, but slightly different positions. Please feel free to use these pictures if you wish!!

 

N over N Sideways Obvere Flaws Predecimal.jpg

Brilliant Pictures!

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