class IIb colon after HYB

[scott 144]

new one on me, only seen colon stops on a single example of a class 1c

[Coinery 1,157]

6 hours ago, scott said:

new one on me, only seen colon stops on a single example of a class 1c

There are a couple of earlier class examples, but as with other later class examples they are considered to be uncommon to mostly rare.

Your variety is known and listed in Withers Galata Guide, I’ve added the relevant part for your reference. A nice addition to your collection, well done  

[Ukstu 445]

One of mine. Mule ? Reverse is 11b obverse looks earlier. 

 

Edited October 20, 2024 by Ukstu

[Coinery 1,157]

15 hours ago, Ukstu said:

One of mine. Mule ? Reverse is 11b obverse looks earlier. 

 

The obverse is 10cf2 I believe.
Just out of interest, what makes you think the reverse is 11b, the reverse lettering looks classic 10 to me and correlates well with the obverse style?

[Ukstu 445]

Thanks Stu.

It was the shape of the letter C. I thought it looked pointed backed. 

I actually had it marked down as 10cf3 but i wasn't 100% sure.

 

[Coinery 1,157]

2 hours ago, Ukstu said:

It was the shape of the letter C. I thought it looked pointed backed. 

 

Ah, yes, I see where you’re going with that. I’m going to be honest, I really don’t know the finer points of all the different class letters, though I believe the angle-back from 11b onwards to be much more pronounced? From a brief look around at other earlier coins I can see letters with a similar amount of ‘point,’ so I’m not convinced, especially with the other reverse letters so much in the style of the obverse legend?

However, that isn’t to say you’re not right…my new book is certainly going to help with these finer points, as it’s phenomenal in its detail, even down to the developing flaws on various letter punches. It’s a huge body of work, it’s going to take a lot of deciphering and time…can’t wait, though, best book I’ve ever bought!

I will read it with your particular question in mind, and keep feeding back until we have it nailed!  

[Ukstu 445]

I trust your judgement more than i do mine.I don't profess to be sufficient with identification of these , short cross are more my thing.

I have a few long cross that are not marked up fully or are most likely incorrect from when i first started out collecting. 

[Coys55 47]

Here's my 11b with :

[Coinery 1,157]

100% and clear example, brilliant. Thank goodness for medieval pennies too