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Citizen H

3 Pence Hoard 1885 - 1919

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Hello All,

Today Ive moved away from my collection and thought Id show and tell some of my Grandfathers ....hoard.

the story is my mother passed them on to me when i was 20 something it was my inheritance as Brother and sister borrowed money off Mother and never paid it back!!!!!!. I've never borrowed from her.

The coins (grandfer's) were kept in a princess Mary's 1914 Xmas Tin, I've no Idea How or Why he started keeping these coins, there's no explanation from the family and these would have been currency when he was around using them.... unless he kept them as savings when currency was changing and the silver content involved? 

I have catalogued the 3 pence and its probably better to show the hoard as one lot.... please shout out if any particular dates would like to be seen?

also here's the great debate. Do I consolidate with my coins or keep them separate and let the others deal with family history? Also.. what would be suggested as general value for a 3 pence? the grade is  good some much better others not so... it wouldn't be fair to ask to value each individually. and Thank you advance, Ive also add a photo of the man in question, Frank Norris, RGA.

1884,  1885, 1890, 1895 x2, 1896, 1897, 1899, 1900 x2, 1907, 1908, 1912 x2, 1913, 1914 x3, 1915 x2, 1916 x15, 1917 x5 1918 x7, 1919 x6, ......... Qty 53 in all.  All the very best Rgds "H" 

 

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My Grandfather, 

 

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Nice collection!

I don't believe any of the dates indicated are special. I used to find that silver threepences sold fairly steadily on the market stall at about £1 each, so that is a reasonable valuation for your records. As to whether to break them out into your collection or not, I can hardly advise!

By the way, the Queen Mary box has value too. With none of the original contents they typically go £20 to £30 depending on condition.

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48 minutes ago, Paddy said:

Nice collection!

I don't believe any of the dates indicated are special. I used to find that silver threepences sold fairly steadily on the market stall at about £1 each, so that is a reasonable valuation for your records. As to whether to break them out into your collection or not, I can hardly advise!

By the way, the Queen Mary box has value too. With none of the original contents they typically go £20 to £30 depending on condition.

its been a light bulb moment... I can use the duplicates and fill in the gaps so at least have a continues group of dates, or keep randomly buy coins and adding them to the hoard !?!??! why break the family habit?  🤣

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I would be surprised if the dates didn't mean something to your grandfather.
Kept in a Queen Mary tin and no date later than 1919. A full run from 1912 to 1919 may be significant.
Maybe change kept from his pay or even the profits from games of "Put & Take".
I have some collections like these and I wouldn't assign an indvidual value to each item in a collection. The value is in the group and possible explanations for its existence.

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1 hour ago, Fubar said:

I would be surprised if the dates didn't mean something to your grandfather.
Kept in a Queen Mary tin and no date later than 1919. A full run from 1912 to 1919 may be significant.
Maybe change kept from his pay or even the profits from games of "Put & Take".
I have some collections like these and I wouldn't assign an indvidual value to each item in a collection. The value is in the group and possible explanations for its existence.

He had died before I was born, I've managed to gather up all his army photos and research, His military service was from 1913 up until 1920 when he was at School of Gunnery  Shoeburyness, it was experimental cannons being fired. when the army finish and he was demobbed... when his medals arrived home he opened the and threw them on the fire in disgust... I'm now 58 and so feel the need to preserve his history in case it gets forgotten.    

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If it helps, and I'm sure you know but the image shows he was a full Corporal in the Royal Artillery and he had been fighting for three years when it was taken or in total if the War had ended at that point.

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A really nice story. If it were me, I would keep the 53 in the tin. The coins are in nice circulated condition and have already lived in the tin for a long time. It's already quite a good number and I probably would not want to add more to the tin. Any new ones can go into a separate container. You always have the option of mixing them later if you so wish. 

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3 hours ago, Flash said:

If it helps, and I'm sure you know but the image shows he was a full Corporal in the Royal Artillery and he had been fighting for three years when it was taken or in total if the War had ended at that point.

Hello Flash, 

the shoulder title is S Of G school of gunnery he was posted there when it was experimental establishment, the cap badge is the Royal Artillery he was with the RGA section of the R, Another thing that gets missed however there's the wounded stripe, I have all of his brass inc his Gun Layer trade and Gunnery instructors badge, The Artillery Corporals were called Bombardier.... I have looked into his service and found lost of paperwork its only been this year that I found out about the Shoeburyness Essex experimental Establishment, sadly there's no records of this and by chance I was going over some old letters and the address caught my eye "S Of G" now this is dated 1920, his regt number and Shoeburyness... it all added to the jigsaw.      

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