Gold Coins...Guinea's & Sovereigns....etc

[Citizen H 53]

After showing some of the hoard of silver coins and becoming a bit repetitive I decided it may be good time to look at some of the gold coins.

the few I have were dismissed by one dealer as they were rubbed..... I did pick them up when I was uneducated and purely as it was very old and imagine who owned it, what it paid for etc.... so I was more about history rather than the financial reason...... although the price of gold may have seen these increase 4 times ?!?! realistically I wouldn't be able to buy them nowadays.  

reading from the following on how many that were melted down? so even though its rubbed...it survived.

Id be really interest not only to see what made of mine and to also see others.... I did have a brief look to see if mine had Mint marks....errrrmmm I think someone else may need to take a look 

please do show some of yours to get things started on this topic....Many thanks "H"  

In the Great Recoinage of 1816, the guinea was demonetised and replaced by the gold sovereign. Following the Great Recoinage, the word "guinea" was retained as a colloquial or specialised term, even though the coins were no longer in use; the term guinea also survived as a unit of account in some fields. Notable usages included professional fees (medical, legal, etc.), which were often invoiced in guineas, and horse racing and greyhound racing, and the sale of rams. In each case a guinea meant an amount of one pound and one shilling (21 shillings, £1.05 in decimal notation)

[Paddy 1,787]

It would be interesting to see what you have. I don't really collect gold, although I have a few odds and ends.

I know from my market days many "guineas" brought to me were actually 19th century gaming tokens in brass, loosely imitating the by then defunct guinea coins.

The only pre-sovereign British gold coin I have is this third guinea from 1810:

 

[Paddy 1,787]

I am surprised the 1810 third Guinea has garnered so many likes - it looks too rough for me!

I like this Victoria 1872 Sovereign much more. I bought it originally during my dealing days and sold it straight on to a friend. A few years later, he needed cash and offered it back to me at the original price. Gold had gone up substantially in the meantime, so I gave him more but I think it was still a good deal and I have kept it since then.

[Citizen H 53]

Hello Paddy,  Third guinea from 1810:

with a Rarity index: 72 (0 being common 100 V Rare) Auction sales sees this as a price £ 300 AU   £ 530 uncirculated.... 

Mints: Royal Mint (Tower Hill), London, United Kingdom (1810-1975) Royal Mint (Tower of London), United Kingdom (1279-1810)

Engraver: Lewis Pingo

Demonetized

This much I've found out......

All the best "H" 

Edited 1 hour ago by Citizen H

[Citizen H 53]

22 minutes ago, Paddy said:

I am surprised the 1810 third Guinea has garnered so many likes - it looks too rough for me!

I like this Victoria 1872 Sovereign much more. I bought it originally during my dealing days and sold it straight on to a friend. A few years later, he needed cash and offered it back to me at the original price. Gold had gone up substantially in the meantime, so I gave him more but I think it was still a good deal and I have kept it since then.

Victoria 1872 Sovereign

 Rarity index: 26 (0 being common 100 V Rare)

for issues with mintmark below wreath, see Australia - Colonial (M = Melbourne mint, S = Sydney mint)

A die error is known to exist: Obverse with "GRΛTIΛ" instead of "GRATIA"

Obverse, reverse and overdate varieties exist: 

Without die number,

Die number below wreath,

Additional raised line on lower part of ribbon (Ansell type)

Royal Mint (Tower Hill), London, United Kingdom (1810-1975)

Engraver: Jean Baptiste Merlen

£ 640 VF  £ 640 XF  £ 640 AU  £ 840 UNC (sales realized on Internet platforms)

Mintage 13 486 708

Hope this helps........ Rgds "H"