Are farthings varieties collectable?

[Mario 7]

I only collect pennies from 1860 to 1970

And I don't have knowledge about other coinage.

For example are this 1858 more valuable because appears to have the 5 and 8 bodged up.?

Apologies for the low resolution picture,  but that's the best I can do. 

Many thanks 

 

[Rob 3,217]

Recut characters have limited appeal. There are always going to be a small number of collectors of any denomination that collect almost to the individual die level, but for the majority of collectors, the variety interest tends to be limited to overdates (not just recut with the same digit), legend error correction, or substantive design differences. I don't think I'm sticking my neck out in saying that the majority of collectors of any denomination are simply looking to complete a date run.

A good indicator of popularity is whether a reference volume has been written documenting the varieties, because until one appears, most people will ignore subtle differences. Once it is written down, everyone wants to find the variety or thinks they have it. Tail wagging the dog, or maybe the other way round.

[Mario 7]

33 minutes ago, Rob said:

Recut characters have limited appeal. There are always going to be a small number of collectors of any denomination that collect almost to the individual die level, but for the majority of collectors, the variety interest tends to be limited to overdates (not just recut with the same digit), legend error correction, or substantive design differences. I don't think I'm sticking my neck out in saying that the majority of collectors of any denomination are simply looking to complete a date run.

A good indicator of popularity is whether a reference volume has been written documenting the varieties, because until one appears, most people will ignore subtle differences. Once it is written down, everyone wants to find the variety or thinks they have it. Tail wagging the dog, or maybe the other way round.

Really appreciate your answer. 

Many thanks 👍 

I've been searching for a bit more info on the web this evening, and I  found out it was already been documented  as "obverse 3f    5 over lower 5 and 8 over higher 8"

But found nothing else about rarity or sold coins with the same variety. 

[Sylvester 52]

I dabble mostly in silver coinage and I would concur, most of us are happy with one of each date. That said this might include some slight variants, perhaps overdates if well known or maybe 'small date'/'large date', 'Arabic 1/Roman I' types.

[Michael-Roo 783]

https://www.colincooke.com/ccc_frontpage

[Paddy 1,861]

I suspect this is where you got the obverse 3f attribution:

https://aboutfarthings.co.uk/catalogue/uk-farthings/victoria-1838-1901/victoria-young-head-1838-1859/1858-farthing/

That is the most comprehensive online resource on farthings that I am aware of. At the bottom of the page you will see he has 17 different combinations of varieties! However they all have a single Peck number.

Farthings seem less sought after than Pennies and so the varieties are more of an interest than a serious collecting area for most. Because of this I don't think anyone has the data to assign scarcity measures to each variety.

The About Farthings is not currently being maintained and so some pages are disrupted and the whole site may disappear one day.

 

[Mario 7]

4 hours ago, Paddy said:

I suspect this is where you got the obverse 3f attribution:

https://aboutfarthings.co.uk/catalogue/uk-farthings/victoria-1838-1901/victoria-young-head-1838-1859/1858-farthing/

That is the most comprehensive online resource on farthings that I am aware of. At the bottom of the page you will see he has 17 different combinations of varieties! However they all have a single Peck number.

Farthings seem less sought after than Pennies and so the varieties are more of an interest than a serious collecting area for most. Because of this I don't think anyone has the data to assign scarcity measures to each variety.

The About Farthings is not currently being maintained and so some pages are disrupted and the whole site may disappear one day.

 

Yes, that's the website,  where I found a matching recut date from their pictures.

At least that's some info on that website,  better than nothing. 

Many thanks 👍 

[Mario 7]

5 hours ago, Michael-Roo said:

https://www.colincooke.com/ccc_frontpage

Thanks for the link 👍

[copper123 1,550]

The Large and small dates are well collected but anything outside that is a bit specialist

[Mario 7]

49 minutes ago, copper123 said:

The Large and small dates are well collected but anything outside that is a bit specialist

Thanks👍