decarlation penny 1644? any help

[Guest Rebecca Tetley]

From what i have researched i have a Declaration penny" produced in 1644 where the reverse contains the declaration RELIG PRO LEG ANG LIBER PAR 1644.

i can find no pictures to reference this all i know is that it is probably a declaration penny becuase of the latin stamped on it and the date and makers oxon on it. Does anyone have any more information on this coin as i can;t find any on the internet

[Rob 3,152]

From what i have researched i have a Declaration penny" produced in 1644 where the reverse contains the declaration RELIG PRO LEG ANG LIBER PAR 1644.

i can find no pictures to reference this all i know is that it is probably a declaration penny becuase of the latin stamped on it and the date and makers oxon on it. Does anyone have any more information on this coin as i can;t find any on the internet

Firstly it's not a penny as these were too small to accommodate the declaration. Secondly, usually there was OX on Oxford mint coins with OXON only found on the Rawlins crown (I think). A note in Spink suggests that there are a lot of electrotypes and copies of this piece. This is not surprising as Spink 2006 gives prices in Fine and Very Fine as £12500 and £37500 respectively. Post a picture together with details of size and weight if possible and it should be possible to ascertain what you have.

[Peter 615]

Hmmm........this would need a bit of an intro on Ebay....one to be bought thru a dealer methinks.

[TomGoodheart 403]

Well, there is actually an example of a 'Declaration' penny but it doesn't say OXON on it and is very rare indeed.

In fact most of the Oxford issue coins only say 'OX' at best. At a guess I'd say it's more likely to be a modern reproduction. I can give a more accurate opinion if you post a picture. Failing that I'd need at least the diameter of the coin and to know what the 'front' looks like. Does it have a portrait or picture of the king on horseback? I assume the coin is silver? I can then hazard a guess as to the denomination

[Guest Guest]

Well, there is actually an example of a 'Declaration' penny but it doesn't say OXON on it and is very rare indeed.

In fact most of the Oxford issue coins only say 'OX' at best. At a guess I'd say it's more likely to be a modern reproduction. I can give a more accurate opinion if you post a picture. Failing that I'd need at least the diameter of the coin and to know what the 'front' looks like. Does it have a portrait or picture of the king on horseback? I assume the coin is silver? I can then hazard a guess as to the denomination

just trying to get a pic of it. it deffinately says oxon. it kinda looks like the Hammered Silver "Declaration" Half Pound of Charles I but has a v instead of an X. HOw do i know its sliver or electroplated?

[TomGoodheart 403]

OK. An Oxford Crown then (the V is roman numerals for 5 shillings). I have found a picture, so when you get yours on-line I will compare. The style will tell if it is a modern copy for souvenir purposes. If it looks like the 'real thing' further investigation will be needed.

Do you have a scanner? They can be used to get fairly decent pics (all mine in the gallery were done that way).

In the meantime, may I ask where you got it (I don't need real specifics, just was it a find, inherited, purchase?)