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I have a two headed british penny. It does not have a year because of the two headed problem. Does anybody know why this would be stamped lik this? Is it a proof of some sort? Any information about such an item would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Les Laidlaw

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I have a two headed british penny. It does not have a year because of the two headed problem. Does anybody know why this would be stamped lik this? Is it a proof of some sort? Any information about such an item would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Les Laidlaw

I have a two headed Victoria bunhead halfpence, but it is actually two halfpenny’s that have been either sanded down or cut and then joined at together. It is only slightly over weight but you can faintly see the join mark around the edge. You do sometimes get genuine two headed or two tailed coins which happen as a minting error. I would weigh your coin or check round the outside to see if you can see any join marks.

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I have an 1856 sovereign that is two headed. Unfortunately, I missed out on

an 1872 piece that was with it. I think they are refered to as brockage (sp).

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Guest les Laidlaw

Are these two headed coins of value or just something to win bets from friends?

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Just as long as I get to call

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I too have a two headed penny. This one however is beyond me, :blink: George V and Elizebeth II. Why anyone would go through the trouble to do this is beyond me. You cant even win the toss with it! Again the two coins have been sanded or ground down and then stuck together. Weight 8.9 gramms so not a bad attempt, about 0.5g short.

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Guest E. Dawson

The key question is whether it is a brockage or a concoction. The only other possibility is that there was a lot of mint sport going on in the early to mid-sixties on the QE II bits including especially the penny and halfpenny denominations.

With a brockage one side will be a bit more blurry and the legend looks spread with respect to the individual letters. This is of course when one coin is stuck on the lower die (usually) and the new planchet is dropped on top of the old. The die with (usually) the obverse strikes the new coin which also receives the old-struck obverse image impacted on the opposite side. You can imagine that there are any number of possibilities as other planchets could be caught up in the process with some or all ejected through the striking processes. Generally and in the usual case the image should be incused and lettering in reverse.

Concoctions are quite good with machining methods available now and so the rim of one coin can be left and the inner bit machined out with then another coin machined down to fit in the recess with its residual image facing outward. Usually there is a seem where the two are joined but it may require image enhancement or microscopy to show either it or the adjustment marks necessary to remove it.

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Here is a picture of a brockage penny I have got. You can tell a brockage coin becouse one side is incuse. A brockage occurs when a coin is struck and then stuck in the system then a new planchet is fed in and struck. What happens is the original coin that was stuck acts as a sort of die and leaves an incuse reverse image on the other side of the second coin. Plaese look at the picture of my penny to see what I mean. P.s. this is a full or 100% brockage you also get partial brockages which only have partial details of the stuck coin imprinted on the new one. Also if anyone has any error, brockage , double headed British coins I would be willing to buy them of you at a good price as I am starting to collect them. Please PM me.

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There are a number of pictures of brockage coins at,

www.coinarchives.com

If I can get help I'll try an post pictures of my sov. Please wish me luck!!

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There are a number of pictures of brockage coins at,

www.coinarchives.com

If I can get help I'll try an post pictures of my sov. Please wish me luck!!

Good luck ken I would love to see your Sovereign.

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I personally prefer a brockage with a date, or a unique obverse (such as 1 or 1* on the Bronze series)..

Here is my 1878 Penny Brockage..

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Here is an example of a scarcer type brockage.... It's a 1961 penny with the OBVERSE struck through a stuck fragment of the trident area from the reverse of another penny... The brockage area (the area of the struck through fragment is incuse).....

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I personally prefer a brockage with a date, or a unique obverse (such as 1 or 1* on the Bronze series)..

Here is my 1878 Penny Brockage..

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Here is an example of a scarcer type brockage.... It's a 1961 penny with the OBVERSE struck through a stuck fragment of the trident area from the reverse of another penny... The brockage area (the area of the struck through fragment is incuse).....

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Great coins Collector. I may be wrong but I think I have read somewhere that reverse brockages are rarer than obverse ones in British coins. I don't know if its to do with the position of the dies? maybe the obverse dies are at the bottom therefore coins tend to stick to the obverse die more? who knows.

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The best I've got to offer is this 1967 penny. If you look into the split you can see that both upper and low parts have some obverse, the top being incuse.

Does anything like this have any value?

Gary

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The best I've got to offer is this 1967 penny. If you look into the split you can see that both upper and low parts have some obverse, the top being incuse.

Does anything like this have any value?

Gary

Looks like a split planchet, that is starting to separate......

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The best I've got to offer is this 1967 penny. If you look into the split you can see that both upper and low parts have some obverse, the top being incuse.

Does anything like this have any value?

Gary

Looks like a split planchet, that is starting to separate......

An 2 Headed English coin is the William III halfpenny, Peck #673. Here is an example -

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The best I've got to offer is this 1967 penny. If you look into the split you can see that both upper and low parts have some obverse, the top being incuse.

Does anything like this have any value?

Gary

Looks like a split planchet, that is starting to separate......

An 2 Headed English coin is the William III halfpenny, Peck #673. Here is an example -

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Wow, nice coin!

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Guest Meech

I have two farthings dated 1940 and 1942, in some manner stuck/adhered together so it is essential a two tailed coin, very feint silence colour appears visible between them, and one of the sides is scratched/ flaking to show silver underneath. Bored soldier finding a way to win a coin toss to avoid arduous or boring duty?

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