Help Please!

[Hussulo 6]

Hi I am trying to create a British coins website.

It will primarily be aimed at beginners and people who come upon British coins but are unsure as to what they have, but it could also be an interest to any coin collectors.

What I would like is scans or photos of British coins of all denominations.

If you donate a picture that I could use on my website I will be most great full, but I will also ad "courtesy of ...." below the picture you can either have your name or a nickname below the picture whichever you prefer.

Please email me pictures of your coins plus a note to say you allow me to use them on my website to hmansulo@yahoo.co.uk

I thank you all in advance.

hussulo

P.S. the website isn't up and running yet but it will be called coins.gb.com

[Chris Perkins 228]

You can use anything you find on predecimal.com if you write under it courtesy of Chris Perkins and then link to www.predecimal.com

[Geordie582 18]

How about the coins in the gallery? You can use mine

[Hussulo 6]

You can use anything you find on predecimal.com if you write under it courtesy of Chris Perkins and then link to www.predecimal.com

Many thanks Chris,

I will do!

[Guest Guest_josie_I'm_a_Guest]

That is a good thing to hear hussulo, looking forward to see all the coins in all denomination can published a book in art form if you completed the whole series in good picture and sample didnt see in books or in the web especially in full color,GOODLUCK

[Hussulo 6]

Thanks geordie!

Infact thanks to everyone for being so helpfull and supportive.

[TomGoodheart 400]

You didn't say what period you're thinking of but if you're interested in any of mine please just pm me and I can email you the original pic.

Good luck!

Richard

[Bronze & Copper Collector 412]

My area is primarily Bronze and copper.... I have many of the rarer varieties, granted not all in high grade, but if you need images for display, just let me know what you need......

[Red Riley 2]

No doubt you will be flooded with offers. My collection is pretty eclectic (anything from Celtic to 1970) - the result, I am informed, of a butterfly mind. What I suggest I do is to let you have a list of my collection and you can go through and pick out any gaps which you would like filling, I can then scan them and send them to you via e-mail.

Can I also suggest some kind of grading guide.

[mint_mark 9]

Can I also suggest some kind of grading guide.

I often wondered whether some sort of interactive grading website would be good... maybe like a game or quiz. It could show you a coin, you select what grade you think it is, it tells you how you fit in with opinion so far (or expert opinion, or whatever). There could be a link to somewhere to write comments where people could discuss the grading.

In fact, what I have described could probably be done with the voting mechanism on the forum, although it would get a bit cumbersome with a thread for each type of coin in each grade.

Still, it could provide a useful resource for us all (especially for less common types) and it would be interesting to see the things that different people look for when grading.

[Red Riley 2]

Can I also suggest some kind of grading guide.

I often wondered whether some sort of interactive grading website would be good... maybe like a game or quiz. It could show you a coin, you select what grade you think it is, it tells you how you fit in with opinion so far (or expert opinion, or whatever). There could be a link to somewhere to write comments where people could discuss the grading.

In fact, what I have described could probably be done with the voting mechanism on the forum, although it would get a bit cumbersome with a thread for each type of coin in each grade.

Still, it could provide a useful resource for us all (especially for less common types) and it would be interesting to see the things that different people look for when grading.

I like this idea and think there could be some mileage in it. Have a feeling though all graders should be anonymous, as there could be a tendency to undergrade out of sheer machismo!

[Chris Perkins 228]

A photograding website for each type is something I've always wanted to do in order to give people an idea and protect them. Lack of time is my biggest problem.

[Rob 3,152]

Can I also suggest some kind of grading guide.

I often wondered whether some sort of interactive grading website would be good... maybe like a game or quiz. It could show you a coin, you select what grade you think it is, it tells you how you fit in with opinion so far (or expert opinion, or whatever). There could be a link to somewhere to write comments where people could discuss the grading.

In fact, what I have described could probably be done with the voting mechanism on the forum, although it would get a bit cumbersome with a thread for each type of coin in each grade.

Still, it could provide a useful resource for us all (especially for less common types) and it would be interesting to see the things that different people look for when grading.

I like this idea and think there could be some mileage in it. Have a feeling though all graders should be anonymous, as there could be a tendency to undergrade out of sheer machismo!

I don't think undergrading is likely to be a problem. All people have to do is be honest with themselves, look at the coin objectively and properly scrutinise it for wear, then take an ego-free path and give an accurate assessment. It will of course help them if they have seen both high and low grade examples previously.

[Rob 3,152]

A photograding website for each type is something I've always wanted to do in order to give people an idea and protect them. Lack of time is my biggest problem.

A few images of coins with arrows showing where the high points are and consequently the first points to show wear would help a lot of people. e.g. 2/6ds from 1902-27 always lose the I & P of the garter legend first along with hair detail or the best indicator of wear to George III shillings from 1816 is the harp breast. It should be conical to a point if mint state and always wears flat, so the wear is proportional to the size of flat surface. Much better than the lions which can suffer from die blockage or wear due to their irregular surface shape and fine detail.

[Gary 7]

A photograding website for each type is something I've always wanted to do in order to give people an idea and protect them. Lack of time is my biggest problem.

Same here, lack of time but also lack of expertise to create an interactive site.

You can use any pictures from my homepage and if you require originals just drop me a line. It would probably be better to list the pictures required when and as needed, I am sure between us (Forum members) we can put together a pretty impressive collection!

Cheers,

Gary

A link to my Site would be nice when you are up and running, I know there are many german collectors who would also be interested in your intended site.

Edited November 16, 2006 by Gary

[Red Riley 2]

We seem to have moved away slightly from Hussulo's original idea but I think a bank of graded images would be a great idea. Between us, we should be able to collect images of most coins in most conditions. Looks like a job for a volunteer.

Incidentally, following on from Rob's last posting, the first point to wear on the 1825-60 Britannia is her right breast. It must have been such things that led a spotty youth overflowing with hormones to become a numismatist...

[Peter 615]

At coinpeople.com they have been doing this coin grading challenge...but mainly on US coins...there have been some interesting results.

I would be very interested in pre 1800 copper as recently I observed very similar coins on "well known" respected dealers tables varied considerably in price.

This must be down to the grade attributed.

[Guest Guest_josie_I'm_a_Guest]

Yeah the coinpeople, so many coins in diff. country but didnt see one album,That have or most british coin in order of release per year ,mint set proof set.excluding major and minor varieties. thats is even in picture.

Also the picture of rare coins "ask permision first from the site owner" like the copy of 1933 penny from clayton site who ask permission from spink.

picture abuse especially in rare coins.

Really like to see the completion of this gallery,I cant have most of the modern coin at least, I will see it in the web.

[Hussulo 6]

Thanks everyone!

It’s going to take a while, but I am going to tackle it head on and get it running as soon as possible.

At first I would like to keep it simple, with pictures of each type of coin (not every year) and I also plan to have another subsection with the grading system and examples of it using pictures (but not every type of coin, maybe just one or two to start with) also another subsection on errors with pictures describing the various errors, and maybe eventually a forum for discussion. I really want to keep it relatively simple to begin with and possibly just start with all milled coins up until George VI with a view to go further back into hammered coins. Once the site is up and running it will be an ongoing project with more and more additions to it.

Once again thank you all very much for all your support.

[josie 8]

Well another forum,

well you are the one who is building the new site, but the coins and image will be contribute by members and other good guest in this forum.

One of the problem encountered in image gallery or other forum is time,effort and space for taking picture and putting them on the site.

Thats why the whole collection of coin will not be place in one album or one site, coz every one has one or another already in thier own album, but seeing the whole collection for every year both obverse and reverse the variety and mint set, proof set. will take a lot lot of space and effort, that a single collector will have a hard time.

Completing every coin in every year is more or less the compilation of images most books and web site that was published,all the forum moderator can do is to ask permission to member to copy or put them into e a web page and published it in the web.

There will be a hole especially the rare coins even downloading pictures yuo have to ask first,since many expert colector replied it will be not that hard.

Even in some other site you have to be a member to see the gallery,I thought your site will be an extension of this forum to store all britain coins from time in memorial till present ,that sometimes chris have to delete something for space.

Guess seeing all coins in good condition will take time,for putting one in web cost.

[Hussulo 6]

Well another forum,

well you are the one who is building the new site, but the coins and image will be contribute by members and other good guest in this forum.

One of the problem encountered in image gallery or other forum is time,effort and space for taking picture and putting them on the site.

Thats why the whole collection of coin will not be place in one album or one site, coz every one has one or another already in thier own album, but seeing the whole collection for every year both obverse and reverse the variety and mint set, proof set. will take a lot lot of space and effort, that a single collector will have a hard time.

Completing every coin in every year is more or less the compilation of images most books and web site that was published,all the forum moderator can do is to ask permission to member to copy or put them into e a web page and published it in the web.

There will be a hole especially the rare coins even downloading pictures yuo have to ask first,since many expert colector replied it will be not that hard.

Even in some other site you have to be a member to see the gallery,I thought your site will be an extension of this forum to store all britain coins from time in memorial till present ,that sometimes chris have to delete something for space.

Guess seeing all coins in good condition will take time,for putting one in web cost.

If I do add a forum at all that will be one of the last additions to the site, if at all. I have a lot of respect for Chris and this forum and would never want to take anyone away from it. In fact I am a member of more than one forum at present as other others here.

Also because Chris has been so helpful and friendly there will be a link if not many links to his excellent site. I am not trying to compete with anyone here, just trying to make an reference for beginner collectors and anyone else that might be interested. I know it’s going to be hard, but to begin with I only plan on having pictures of regular issue coins and not proofs or proof sets rare varieties etc... Also I am going to only include one picture of each type of coin and not from every year. If I was to attempt to do a coin from each year I would maybe never manage to finish the site.

It will also be a free website for anyone to visit. I am not trying to make money just help people who enjoy this great hobby or that are thinking of starting to collect out. Once its up and running if anyone chooses to add a link to it from their website well then I would be most great full.

[josie 8]

It is same as other forum, while other are ahead they have an image gallery like the omnicoin or cionpeople all they have to do is compile them to one folder and published it in the web.

both an exposure for thier forum and records of coin of thier member.

Guest just imagining things, all coins will be on one website,NGC may all the preserva picture didnt published it or ebay.

Goodluck hussulo, Im with you,Just want to see all coins and denomination it is near to imposibble the space it will take will be huge,even browsing it will occupy space in normal computer.especially in high quality picture or scan.

Thank you for the time and effort,hope for the best,the link is good idea.will see maybe in due time you can post all coins by the help of expert.

Just dont allow others to download picture especially the rare one,they might use it for something else.

It is all up to you now.

[Hussulo 6]

It is same as other forum, while other are ahead they have an image gallery like the omnicoin or cionpeople all they have to do is compile them to one folder and published it in the web.

both an exposure for thier forum and records of coin of thier member.

Guest just imagining things, all coins will be on one website,NGC may all the preserva picture didnt published it or ebay.

Goodluck hussulo, Im with you,Just want to see all coins and denomination it is near to imposibble the space it will take will be huge,even browsing it will occupy space in normal computer.especially in high quality picture or scan.

Thank you for the time and effort,hope for the best,the link is good idea.will see maybe in due time you can post all coins by the help of expert.

Just dont allow others to download picture especially the rare one,they might use it for something else.

It is all up to you now.

Thanks josie,

That is a good point you make about picture theft though, but I don't know if there is any way around it most pictures can be copied from websites and used unlawfully (unfortunately there are unscrupulous people out there).

[josie 8]

maybe that is the problem, that they dont published in books or in the web and members in other site only,I didnt tried to download a picture in the web dont know really thier defense or security measure.

since you are doing the site now,thier is a line between toned and high grade coin that is also a topic I observe in the web,just another additional info or again picture.

[Chris Perkins 228]

You can install programmes on your server to prevent hotlinking, which is when other people make webpages that link to your pictures and thus use your bandwidth with no benefit to you.