COIN IDENTIFICATION

[Guest BILL]

Hi all ,

Have several coins i'd like to identify and see what the're worth if possible. Gold? 19mm diameter x 1mm thick, date 1704 head side carol . 111 dc. hisret indr. Opposite face crown with chain going round coin to attache at each side of crown. Encompassed within is a "shield" . around the coin the letters UTROO FELIX. AD NIP IE . That's one of them, any help would be much appreciated . thank's BILL

[Emperor Oli 0]

Charles III coin of some nationality - I'd hazard a guess and say Spanish but don't quote me on it. Foreign coins ain't really my area

[Guest Bill]

hi ,

Anyone else have any other ideas on this coin, ive looked on internet but cant find anything. Cheers Bill

[mint_mark 9]

OK Bill, my book doesn't go back to 1704, but in 1804 for Spain the coins read

Carol . IIII . D . G . HISP . ET . IND . R . (obverse, head side)

AUSPICE . DEO . IN . UTROQ . FELIX . (reverse, tails side)

which is close enough, allowing for some unclear lettering and changes in 100 years. Good guess Oli!!

As for denomination, my book has 2 escudos at 23mm and 1/2 escudo at 15mm but no picture of a 1 escudo! So, it could be a 1 escudo or it could be a 1/2 escudo and they were bigger 100 years before. The design with the crown and chain surrounding the shield is the same though.

Now, we need someone with the proper book and willing to look up Spain 1704...

[Guest Bill]

Hi all ,

I thank each of you for your information .Would it be gold? and would it be worth anything. Ive tried to put pictures on site but failed, seems like some of us old uns arnt to clever . have to get more instuction of my daughter. Cheers Bill

[william 0]

If you want to post a picture on this forum, you have to register!

[Emperor Oli 0]

I doubt it would be gold, as the denomination seems quite low although I could be wrong

[mint_mark 9]

I think I was the only one to mention a denomination... in those days an escudo was obviously a lot of money! The coins in my book go up to 8 escudos... and that is a 27g gold coin containing over three quarters of an ounce of pure gold! Over three sovereigns worth...

The designs on the lower denominations seem to have the shield without the surrounding chain, and they're silver.

It could be that there are imitations around, like the brass spade guineas... I don't know. One way to see might be if Bill could weigh the coin. Got any accurate scales?

[Chris Perkins 228]

I have a later dated 'gold' Spanish forgery that is copper plated with a gold wash, and I know that Spain was another country plagued with forgery.

If it's gold coloured, i'd say it's either gold, or gold coin forgery!

[Guest Bill]

Hi all ,

I will try and get more infomation . I will get back to you with whatever i manage to find out , thanks again for your interest.Bill

[Guest Bill]

Hi All,

The Spanish coin that i described to you, have had an offer of £30 . Another coin 1775 guinea offered £100. Do you think this is a fair price ? Spanish coin is slightly damaged . Bill

[Sylvester 15]

Hi All,

The Spanish coin that i described to you, have had an offer of £30 . Another coin 1775 guinea offered £100. Do you think this is a fair price ? Spanish coin is slightly damaged . Bill

You had a guinea too? What kinda shape is that in then? £100 sounds like it's a lower grade one to me.

[Chris Perkins 228]

You had an offer for something that you don't know anything about! I must assume you have pictures in that case, as it's difficult to sell something when you don't know what it is. Can you register and post them here or email them to me (particularly the Guinea), and I think Sylvester will want to see it too.

cp@predecimal.com

[Sylvester 15]

(particularly the Guinea), and I think Sylvester will want to see it too.

cp@predecimal.com

too right!