Ebay's Worst Offerings

[Paulus 1,975]

Citizen Smith more like

[Rob 3,152]

...And have you seen his other offering that"looks like Hitler"?!

I'm not sure I see the resemblance.

Nonsense, it's there for all to see - the bell-end.

[Coinery 1,154]

...And have you seen his other offering that"looks like Hitler"?!

I'm not sure I see the resemblance.

Nonsense, it's there for all to see - the bell-end.

AND a couple of piercing rings...EVEN a sculpture of himself having the work done!

[HistoricCoinage 146]

Nonsense, it's there for all to see - the bell-end.

[just.me 23]

I'd have to disagree with the seller. . . .

Both the obverse and reverse of the coin retain some nice detail

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/King-George-IV-Silver-Crown-1821-/271469332468?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3f34d547f4

[Peckris 579]

I have no quarrel with GBC as they have quite a listing - admittedly much of it dross - but have gotten some nice pieces from them and they have on occasion been amenable to bargaining. I got not long ago the very nicest 1847/6 groat I have ever seen, something I had been looking for these many years.

That is a lovely play with the "Tower of London" bit there....

That "Tower of London" replica (souvenir, whatever) is now up to £411 - should one of us leave a ridiculously high bid on it, or be cynical, shrug, and say "A fool and his money..."?

[Paulus 1,975]

Hard to believe people willing to spend that sort of money cannot know their subject to this extreme degree!!!

[HistoricCoinage 146]

That "Tower of London" replica (souvenir, whatever) is now up to £411 - should one of us leave a ridiculously high bid on it, or be cynical, shrug, and say "A fool and his money..."?

Cough. Cough.

[TomGoodheart 402]

That "Tower of London" replica (souvenir, whatever) is now up to £411 - should one of us leave a ridiculously high bid on it, or be cynical, shrug, and say "A fool and his money..."?

Cough. Cough.

LOL Well played that man.

[HistoricCoinage 146]

I can assure you it's not me, guvnor.

P.S. But maybe someone we know. Or maybe not. It might not be any of us. It might not even be anyone.

Edited April 29, 2014 by HistoricCoinage

[Peckris 579]

I can assure you it's not me, guvnor.

P.S. But maybe someone we know. Or maybe not. It might not be any of us. It might not even be anyone.

Yeah, but what I meant by "ridiculous" was somewhere in the region of £24,499

[TomGoodheart 402]

Do we need the smiley here?

[HistoricCoinage 146]

Yeah, but what I meant by "ridiculous" was somewhere in the region of £24,499

But you'd need two people for that.

[azda 979]

Ok i hold my Hands up tis i who am winning ye olde Tower of London type thingy ma jig

[Gary1000 41]

Just to play devil's advocate here, what are the legalities around such bidding. Can the seller sue as a bid is a legally binding contract.

[HistoricCoinage 146]

Just to play devil's advocate here, what are the legalities around such bidding. Can the seller sue as a bid is a legally binding contract.

Yes, technically. It's a binding contract and so you're legally obliged to pay. However, it's also a distance contract, which means that you will have seven working days to cancel. So it's highly unlikely any court action will occur as it would just be wasting the seller's money on fees.

[Gary1000 41]

Just to play devil's advocate here, what are the legalities around such bidding. Can the seller sue as a bid is a legally binding contract.

Yes, technically. It's a binding contract and so you're legally obliged to pay. However, it's also a distance contract, which means that you will have seven working days to cancel. So it's highly unlikely any court action will occur as it would just be wasting the seller's money on fees.

I thought the distance thing only applied to BIN auctions or possibly companies selling, not individuals.

[HistoricCoinage 146]

I thought the distance thing only applied to BIN auctions or possibly companies selling, not individuals.

But this private seller wouldn't have a leg to stand on as it'd be them guilty of misrepresentation or breach of contract as the item isn't as described. So, in this case, it doesn't matter whether private or business - he'd still have to accept the return or go to court himself.

[Gary1000 41]

I thought the distance thing only applied to BIN auctions or possibly companies selling, not individuals.

But this private seller wouldn't have a leg to stand on as it'd be them guilty of misrepresentation or breach of contract as the item isn't as described. So, in this case, it doesn't matter whether private or business - he'd still have to accept the return or go to court himself.

I think £400-500 would be well worth a small claims. Re-reading the auction I would say the seller has described what they are selling quiet carefully. They describe it as "looks like a William coin" not that it is a William coin. They also go on to say that it may not be silver and that you will receive what you see in the photo. Not a lot of wriggle room there.

[Colin G. 147]

Gary I have often wondered the same, and have also thought that it could open the floodgates, if someone sees that this coin realised £400 and then has one themselves, are they not likely to do the same with a "one sold recently on here for £400". This may also give the unsuspecting bargain hunter reason to think the coin does have some value when looking at future sales of similar items.

I know that this is done with the best of intentions and I do actually commend you both for trying to do the right thing.

[Nordle11 564]

What you want to do (and I imagine this has been done before large bids start getting placed) is message the seller to inform him of the correct description and advise that his misrepresentation may be misleading to others who might not be aware.

Then, if he doesn't change the description, it's free-for-all. I'm sure that would stand up in court if you had copies of the correspondence..

And I agree with Colin, while it might not be good practice to do this it's definitely being done for the right reasons.

Edited April 30, 2014 by Nordle11

[Gary1000 41]

What you want to do (and I imagine this has been done before large bids start getting placed) is message the seller to inform him of the correct description and advise that his misrepresentation may be misleading to others who might not be aware.

Then, if he doesn't change the description, it's free-for-all. I'm sure that would stand up in court if you had copies of the correspondence..

And I agree with Colin, while it might not be good practice to do this it's definitely being done for the right reasons.

Another concern is that often the spoof bids come from people with large or very large feedbacks. Makes you wonder if you are missing something and decide to have some of that because the big boys are showing interest.

[Nordle11 564]

Another concern is that often the spoof bids come from people with large or very large feedbacks. Makes you wonder if you are missing something and decide to have some of that because the big boys are showing interest.

Hopefully they'll realise what's going on when they fail to outbid Peck's £24,995

[HistoricCoinage 146]

What you want to do (and I imagine this has been done before large bids start getting placed) is message the seller to inform him of the correct description and advise that his misrepresentation may be misleading to others who might not be aware.

Already done. I have messaged him detailing the issue and I know that others have. The fact that he doesn't reply or edit the description says a lot about his character, unless he's genuinely not at his computer...

[Nordle11 564]

Absolutely, if he's choosing to ignore everyone then, hey, he deserves what he gets