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scott    144

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the fact the silver has rubbed off around the edge gives it away...

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Coinery    1,148

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The grammar and spelling says polished and S. plated circulation copper to me!

Anyone that knows enough to "rite" scarce silver proof in their description, should also know that appalling grammar and a small feedback is not the place to roll such a piece out! Tosh!

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Rob    3,152

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The grammar and spelling says polished and S. plated circulation copper to me!

Anyone that knows enough to "rite" scarce silver proof in their description, should also know that appalling grammar and a small feedback is not the place to roll such a piece out! Tosh!

Ebay is not the place to list it period. I wonder why they haven't offered it to Baldwins or Roddy Richardson - people that would pay good money for something correctly fitting the description

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Peckris    579

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Must have rolled back from the pub, nothing on telly, "Ok, let's see what I have in this drawer I can put on eBay.." :D

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Peckris    579

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I don't know, but it certainly looks Anglo-Saxby...

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Rob    3,152

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I don't know, but it certainly looks Anglo-Saxby...

Is it just me or does anyone else think that unresearched on eBay usually means you wouldn't like the answer, or reality would draw you to a cheaper conclusion?

This guy has yet again done his best to mislead. He has dated it to 700-800AD, i.e. dating it as a sceat to get around the problem of the missing legend. Given his feedback, he has seen enough to give an accurate description 99 times or more out of a 100, but needless to say has a remarkable ability to choose an expensive and inaccurate description wherever possible when the alternative would be to take a fair (low) price for the coin in question. He's a disgrace.

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pies    33

pies
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Un researched means either "we looked but it wasn't as valuable as we thought" or " its fake"

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HistoricCoinage    146

HistoricCoinage
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"A finest collectors specimen"

Words fail me.

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Rob    3,152

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Clive, you've disappointed me. I thought you were going to identify the bust punch and hence the mint. :(

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HistoricCoinage    146

HistoricCoinage
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Clive, you've disappointed me. I thought you were going to identify the bust punch and hence the mint. :(

Sorry, Rob. I'm sure Mr Stocks will gladly provide full details of the coin if requested, he's probably found a die match in the Copenhagen collection! ;)

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Rob    3,152

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Clive, you've disappointed me. I thought you were going to identify the bust punch and hence the mint. :(

Sorry, Rob. I'm sure Mr Stocks will gladly provide full details of the coin if requested, he's probably found a die match in the Copenhagen collection! ;)

He's b****y disingenuous though. Small flan type (genuine class), irrespective of the fact that the legend is missing. c700 AD, barely into the sceats at this point. Why didn't he call it a thrymsa? It could have sold for 10x the price of an EdC penny. Unless he's cut down a copy to eliminate the moneyer and mint - CHANG ON HONG KONG

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HistoricCoinage    146

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Incidentally I like how this seller was able to identify the denomination and mint and assign a BIN price to this unresearched piece:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unresearched-Silver-Hammered-Long-Cross-Penny-/360950798199?pt=UK_Coins_BritishHammered_RL&hash=item540a581777

I presume he means unresearched in terms of king or class. But yes, I agree, there's clearly been some research done!

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HistoricCoinage    146

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He's b****y disingenuous though. Small flan type (genuine class), irrespective of the fact that the legend is missing. c700 AD, barely into the sceats at this point. Why didn't he call it a thrymsa? It could have sold for 10x the price of an EdC penny. Unless he's cut down a copy to eliminate the moneyer and mint - CHANG ON HONG KONG

Precisely -- although Aethelred II rather than Edward. Looks more like a base styca from the thumbnail.

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Rob    3,152

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He's b****y disingenuous though. Small flan type (genuine class), irrespective of the fact that the legend is missing. c700 AD, barely into the sceats at this point. Why didn't he call it a thrymsa? It could have sold for 10x the price of an EdC penny. Unless he's cut down a copy to eliminate the moneyer and mint - CHANG ON HONG KONG

Precisely -- although Aethelred II rather than Edward. Looks more like a base styca from the thumbnail.

Sorry, I read the reverse as PACX and didn't look at the bust. The powers of suggestion as I was looking at the Sandwich in DNW. ;)

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damian1986    142

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Incidentally I like how this seller was able to identify the denomination and mint and assign a BIN price to this unresearched piece:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unresearched-Silver-Hammered-Long-Cross-Penny-/360950798199?pt=UK_Coins_BritishHammered_RL&hash=item540a581777

I presume he means unresearched in terms of king or class. But yes, I agree, there's clearly been some research done!

Ah I just think seller is using 'unresearched' in lieu of 'low grade' or 'unidentifiable'. As a buyer I'd be more comfortable with 'unresearched' rather than 'hard to tell', but its misleading - he probably did his research but didn't get anywhere with it, which is different. Can you make out the king and class Clive?

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HistoricCoinage    146

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Ah I just think seller is using 'unresearched' in lieu of 'low grade' or 'unidentifiable'. As a buyer I'd be more comfortable with 'unresearched' rather than 'hard to tell', but its misleading - he probably did his research but didn't get anywhere with it, which is different. Can you make out the king and class Clive?

Very likely.

Looks to be a 9b of Edward I.

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damian1986    142

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Ah I just think seller is using 'unresearched' in lieu of 'low grade' or 'unidentifiable'. As a buyer I'd be more comfortable with 'unresearched' rather than 'hard to tell', but its misleading - he probably did his research but didn't get anywhere with it, which is different. Can you make out the king and class Clive?

Very likely.

Looks to be a 9b of Edward I.

Thanks Clive, I'm being a little harsh I know - keywords like "unresearched" will index better so he'll get more exposure in searches and I appreciate he needs to shift the coin I just get fed up with the marketing.

Regarding Saxbys I don't think I could ever buy a coin from them now, even if it was something I really needed and everything seemed in order. Out of principle. I can't find the post we had recently with the nuked coin but what possessed him to respond to a bidder with "you're naive"? How about hold your hands up and admit to being found out. No one seems to do that nowadays. As if his reputation isn't tarnished enough as far as anybody who gives a shit is concerned - what is he actually defending?

I know the attitude seems to be "let the buyer beware" and all that, which is fair enough to a point, but surely we're morally obliged to to act within the confines of what is fair and productive to society - he's not going to struggle to put bread on the table or have to fire his staff if he gets an honest price for something. It just makes people more defensive.

"By directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention." -- I'm pretty sure this breaks down somewhere at doin' people out of a few quid :lol:

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Coinery    1,148

Coinery
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Saxby's is forever listing the humble E1 penny and Threehalfpence as the rarer and more expensive threefarthings! The seller is a numismatic joke! Unbelievable fraudster OR genuine simpleton, take your pick!

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HistoricCoinage    146

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Regarding Saxbys I don't think I could ever buy a coin from them now, even if it was something I really needed and everything seemed in order. Out of principle. I can't find the post we had recently with the nuked coin but what possessed him to respond to a bidder with "you're naive"? How about hold your hands up and admit to being found out. No one seems to do that nowadays. As if his reputation isn't tarnished enough as far as anybody who gives a shit is concerned - what is he actually defending?

;)

http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/8684-jeez-anyone-bidding/

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Peckris    579

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Perhaps we should recognise a new class of ancient coin - the Anglo-Saxby?

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