Ebay's Worst Offerings

[scott 144]

free postage, perhaps went higher because people are not including that price in the final bid?

[damian1986 142]

Well it's only worth £4 as scrap and they go £20 to £30 in UNC so just thought if someone was going to go to £13 why not go a little bit more. Interesting point about the postage.

95% isn't bad I'll try opening some up to auction.

[Rob 3,152]

I still don't understand why people get so uptight on eBay about sellers charging postage, nor why they should lose any rationality if it is not charged. Why does everybody expect everything to be done for free? Maybe it is symptomatic of benefit culture Britain. If people can't be ar**d buying something because someone has the temerity to charge postage, then sellers not bothering to supply at a loss is a reasonable response.

[scott 144]

some people take the mic with postage.

if I am spending money, I consider postage, when you pay the total, it includes postage, so when i pay for the coin, the full total including postage is the price I have paid for the coin.

I like a bargain, that postage price can make a bit of a difference sometimes.

[Rob 3,152]

The point is that whatever the P&P charged, the outlay is clearly stated. Just as people would take the buyer's premium into consideration if bidding at Spink etc, so should bidders on eBay. It isn't as if you get hit with an unexpected charge after you have won the item. If the P&P was only known after winning, then there would possibly be a case that the seller was taking people for a ride, but surely not when clearly stated in advance. And for the same reason I don't think that people should be able to leave black marks against your name for what you charge - but they do, and that for small amounts of a few pounds.

[damian1986 142]

I was under the impression that eBay recently changed it so that postage is no longer exempt from fees. If so what's the point? - I just factor the postage into the BIN prices. I'd rather a seller operates at a profit and is still around in 2 or 3 years time than operates at ridiculous margins and gets fed up after 6 months. I think people like to think they've done alright but it's a false economy half the time - the amount of sweatshop-generated shit I've bought instead of paying an extra 50% for a quality product. The best one was the digital calipers that were out by anywhere from a few millimetres to a few centimetres every time. Precision.

[DaveG38 405]

I do love an optimist, but at £1,175, even with free postage I don't think anyone but an idiot would be tempted. Apart from the price, I thought all the 1893 proof set boxes were black, not red, but I may be misinformed about this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1893-Proof-set-case-empty-/221612357570?pt=Coins_BritishProofs_RL&hash=item33992037c2

[Michael-Roo 781]

I do love an optimist, but at £1,175, even with free postage I don't think anyone but an idiot would be tempted. Apart from the price, I thought all the 1893 proof set boxes were black, not red, but I may be misinformed about this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1893-Proof-set-case-empty-/221612357570?pt=Coins_BritishProofs_RL&hash=item33992037c2

Did you read the item description in the listing? Not only optimistic but borderline rude too!

[Coppers 58]

I do love an optimist, but at £1,175, even with free postage I don't think anyone but an idiot would be tempted. Apart from the price, I thought all the 1893 proof set boxes were black, not red, but I may be misinformed about this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1893-Proof-set-case-empty-/221612357570?pt=Coins_BritishProofs_RL&hash=item33992037c2

Did you read the item description in the listing? Not only optimistic but borderline rude too!

The description reads...

"RARE INDEED! Serious collectors get in touch

or just press that button. The usual penniless

timewasters need not apply!!

Yes the case is empty .

From an original issue of just 773 sets,after two world wars

and 120 years gone by,it is thought less than 200 sets exist!!

With a complete set costing well in excess of the Spink

value of £20000 this case is a must to start building a set".

I'm almost tempted to ask to contact and ask him if the case is empty.

[Michael-Roo 781]

I do love an optimist, but at £1,175, even with free postage I don't think anyone but an idiot would be tempted. Apart from the price, I thought all the 1893 proof set boxes were black, not red, but I may be misinformed about this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1893-Proof-set-case-empty-/221612357570?pt=Coins_BritishProofs_RL&hash=item33992037c2

Did you read the item description in the listing? Not only optimistic but borderline rude too!

The description reads...

"RARE INDEED! Serious collectors get in touch

or just press that button. The usual penniless

timewasters need not apply!!

Yes the case is empty .

From an original issue of just 773 sets,after two world wars

and 120 years gone by,it is thought less than 200 sets exist!!

With a complete set costing well in excess of the Spink

value of £20000 this case is a must to start building a set".

I'm almost tempted to ask to contact and ask him if the case is empty.

We could also ask:

Do you know how many sets were originally made for issue?

Can you tell me how many world wars there have been?

How long is it since these sets were produced?

Do you know how many are thought to have survived?

What is a 'Spink'?

Why is the 'Spink' insisting I build a set?

Does the 'Spink' have something to do with badgers?

[Rob 3,152]

I do love an optimist, but at £1,175, even with free postage I don't think anyone but an idiot would be tempted. Apart from the price, I thought all the 1893 proof set boxes were black, not red, but I may be misinformed about this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1893-Proof-set-case-empty-/221612357570?pt=Coins_BritishProofs_RL&hash=item33992037c2

Did you read the item description in the listing? Not only optimistic but borderline rude too!

Is it rude to say people who don't want to spend anything are not welcome? Over the years I have seen/received a lot of derisory offers that were well below intrinsic value, let alone their price as a collectible. OK, in this instance the price is just plain silly, but I can see where he's coming from.

[Michael-Roo 781]

I do love an optimist, but at £1,175, even with free postage I don't think anyone but an idiot would be tempted. Apart from the price, I thought all the 1893 proof set boxes were black, not red, but I may be misinformed about this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1893-Proof-set-case-empty-/221612357570?pt=Coins_BritishProofs_RL&hash=item33992037c2

Did you read the item description in the listing? Not only optimistic but borderline rude too!

Is it rude to say people who don't want to spend anything are not welcome? Over the years I have seen/received a lot of derisory offers that were well below intrinsic value, let alone their price as a collectible. OK, in this instance the price is just plain silly, but I can see where he's coming from.

In this case, yes it is. I refer to the words used, not the intended meaning.

[Rob 3,152]

I do love an optimist, but at £1,175, even with free postage I don't think anyone but an idiot would be tempted. Apart from the price, I thought all the 1893 proof set boxes were black, not red, but I may be misinformed about this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1893-Proof-set-case-empty-/221612357570?pt=Coins_BritishProofs_RL&hash=item33992037c2

Did you read the item description in the listing? Not only optimistic but borderline rude too!

Is it rude to say people who don't want to spend anything are not welcome? Over the years I have seen/received a lot of derisory offers that were well below intrinsic value, let alone their price as a collectible. OK, in this instance the price is just plain silly, but I can see where he's coming from.

In this case, yes it is. I refer to the words used, not the intended meaning.

Ok, maybe he shouldn't discriminate and only refer to poorer bidders, but the idea of sticking two fingers up to time wasters is one that most ebay sellers can sympathise with. A person submitting a bid of £1 for a sovereign in the hope that the seller hits the accept button instead of the decline one isn't likely to be welcomed with open arms.

[damian1986 142]

Hello I'm a serious collector and I've got loads of money and I wanted to put together a set of 1893 proofs that all came from different sets and would happily spend an extra 6% on top to house them in a lovely if somewhat disheveled and actually honestly unimpressive but probably authentic case that the coins don't belong to.

It's not the fault of the "penniless" that no one's interested in spending 3 figures on his plugged and dented pennies and the guy is deluded into thinking that his market is the "serious collector"! As frustrating as time wasters are this guy has brought it on himself entirely. No justification or sympathy

[Michael-Roo 781]

Hello I'm a serious collector and I've got loads of money and I wanted to put together a set of 1893 proofs that all came from different sets and would happily spend an extra 6% on top to house them in a lovely if somewhat disheveled and actually honestly unimpressive but probably authentic case that the coins don't belong to.

It's not the fault of the "penniless" that no one's interested in spending 3 figures on his plugged and dented pennies and the guy is deluded into thinking that his market is the "serious collector"! As frustrating as time wasters are this guy has brought it on himself entirely. No justification or sympathy

Well said Damian. I couldn't have put it better….

[azda 979]

Hello I'm a serious collector and I've got loads of money and I wanted to put together a set of 1893 proofs that all came from different sets and would happily spend an extra 6% on top to house them in a lovely if somewhat disheveled and actually honestly unimpressive but probably authentic case that the coins don't belong to.

It's not the fault of the "penniless" that no one's interested in spending 3 figures on his plugged and dented pennies and the guy is deluded into thinking that his market is the "serious collector"! As frustrating as time wasters are this guy has brought it on himself entirely. No justification or sympathy

This will piss him off. Looking forward to his reply

[DaveG38 405]

Just to add a little to the idea that this item is for 'professional' or 'serious' coin collectors. As I said in the opening post on this, I thought that the 1893 set came in a black case. London Coins have sold one or two and sure enough they have all been black, with one exception. However, I've also found this on the 'Coinageofengland' website

http://www.coinageofengland.co.uk/case-28493.htm

Looks suspiciously like the type for sale, and if that's the case, then this was made in the 1950s by Hearn, admittedly for a 1893 Proof set, but it's hardly contemporary, and therefore, hardly for the 'serious collector, as they would presumably want the real thing. LOL.

Edited November 24, 2014 by DaveG38

[Peckris 579]

Just to add a little to the idea that this item is for 'professional' or 'serious' coin collectors. As I said in the opening post on this, I thought that the 1893 set came in a black case. London Coins have sold one or two and sure enough they have all been black, with one exception. However, I've also found this on the 'Coinageofengland' website

http://www.coinageofengland.co.uk/case-28493.htm

Looks suspiciously like the type for sale, and if that's the case, then this was made in the 1950s by Hearn, admittedly for a 1893 Proof set, but it's hardly contemporary, and therefore, hardly for the 'serious collector, as they would presumably want the real thing. LOL.

If you mouse over his 5th picture, you can make out the name Hearn!!

[Rob 3,152]

Just to add a little to the idea that this item is for 'professional' or 'serious' coin collectors. As I said in the opening post on this, I thought that the 1893 set came in a black case. London Coins have sold one or two and sure enough they have all been black, with one exception. However, I've also found this on the 'Coinageofengland' website

http://www.coinageofengland.co.uk/case-28493.htm

Looks suspiciously like the type for sale, and if that's the case, then this was made in the 1950s by Hearn, admittedly for a 1893 Proof set, but it's hardly contemporary, and therefore, hardly for the 'serious collector, as they would presumably want the real thing. LOL.

If you mouse over his 5th picture, you can make out the name Hearn!!

And presumably he knows because that word has been erased whereas the others are reasonably intact.

[Michael-Roo 781]

I know all three items offered for sale are tat but, all the same; metal tweezers?????

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BUN-HEAD-VICTORIAN-PENNY-/221613015230?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item33992a40be

[Nick 329]

I know all three items offered for sale are tat but, all the same; metal tweezers?????

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BUN-HEAD-VICTORIAN-PENNY-/221613015230?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item33992a40be

I know, you might scratch them - the tweezers that is.

[Michael-Roo 781]

I know all three items offered for sale are tat but, all the same; metal tweezers?????

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BUN-HEAD-VICTORIAN-PENNY-/221613015230?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item33992a40be

I know, you might scratch them - the tweezers that is.

[azda 979]

This is apparently an ElizabethI coin

281512936808

[Paulus 1,975]

This is apparently an ElizabethI coin

281512936808

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Seller states "Hand mint mark is attributed to Elizabeth I. The rest of Elizabeths' likeness was removed and re-hammered with Charles' likeness. Very unique piece of history. All questions welcome."

Edited November 28, 2014 by Paulus

[Michael-Roo 781]

This is apparently an ElizabethI coin

281512936808

link

Seller states "Hand mint mark is attributed to Elizabeth I. The rest of Elizabeths' likeness was removed and re-hammered with Charles' likeness. Very unique piece of history. All questions welcome."

A snip at twice the price .