Ebay's Worst Offerings

[Accumulator 52]

Then there's this"oldest on e-Bay" and "worth a fair bit as seen on Antiques Road Show" 1940 penny (which it clearly isn't) that would set you back precisely seventy nine pounds and fifty four pence!

Check out his feedback including the gem: "Lights didnt work panel had lots missing screws and was filthy but Fast delivery". So that's ok then!

[Rob 3,152]

Then there's this"oldest on e-Bay" and "worth a fair bit as seen on Antiques Road Show" 1940 penny (which it clearly isn't) that would set you back precisely seventy nine pounds and fifty four pence!

Check out his feedback including the gem: "Lights didnt work panel had lots missing screws and was filthy but Fast delivery". So that's ok then!

Is it just me, or does anyone else have difficulty seeing the 4 in the date. Looks like 1900 to me, so you may end up with a very valuable washer.

[davidrj 194]

bizarre!

David

[Colin G. 147]

bizarre!

David

Even more bizarre!! They must cost more to make than giving someone the real thing

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/George-VI-FARTHING-1942-1952-Reproduction-Coin-/320673967100

[Rob 3,152]

bizarre!

David

Even more bizarre!! They must cost more to make than giving someone the real thing

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/George-VI-FARTHING-1942-1952-Reproduction-Coin-/320673967100

More worryingly, as the first line of your post states, you wouldn't think to check for a copy on modern 20th century bronze because nobody in their right mind would make it. Wrong. It's another area of hassle for sellers, and one where yet again the innocent customer will unwittingly be wasting his/her money. Dealers in general would not be interested in anything other than mint state 20th century bronze. Collectors may buy mint state plated coins thinking they are the real thing and get ripped off, not to mention p'd off when the dealer rejects their copies.

Does anyone have a weight or dimensions for these? They have to be either lighter if the right physical size, or thicker if the right weight. Usually castings are thicker because the metal is too soft and they are made in two halves which are joined.

Edited May 14, 2011 by Rob

[azda 979]

bizarre!

David

what i find bizzare going from the ebay text is that apparently the only started minting pennies in 1893

Queen Victoria ONE PENNY 1901 Reproduction Coin

Several varieties of penny were minted in the course of Queen Victoria’s long reign. They fall into three main groups - the “Young Head†coins, first issued in 1893; and the “Old Head†issued between 1893 and the end of the reign in 1901.

[Rob 3,152]

bizarre!

David

what i find bizzare going from the ebay text is that apparently the only started minting pennies in 1893

I suspect it's a misprunt(sic). It should read 1983, though it could be later.

[Peckris 579]

bizarre!

David

what i find bizzare going from the ebay text is that apparently the only started minting pennies in 1893

I suspect it's a misprunt(sic). It should read 1983, though it could be later.

1983 ??? My god, we're full of misprunts !

[Rob 3,152]

bizarre!

David

what i find bizzare going from the ebay text is that apparently the only started minting pennies in 1893

I suspect it's a misprunt(sic). It should read 1983, though it could be later.

1983 ??? My god, we're full of misprunts !

Too hasty a reply I'm afraid. It has to be later than 1983 - my mistake. Victorian pennies being bronze from 1860 onwards, lead free pewter Victorian pennies have probably only been available since the EU ban on lead in solder and other such alloys commencing 1st July 2006. Collectable - not.

[Peter 615]

Spot on grading

Just proves the punters out there have no idea....a polished NF.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1900-Victoria-Old-Widow-Head-adamcoinsgb-EF-/260781101273?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3cb7c3d0d9

[Red Riley 2]

Spot on grading

Just proves the punters out there have no idea....a polished NF.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1900-Victoria-Old-Widow-Head-adamcoinsgb-EF-/260781101273?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3cb7c3d0d9

Giving the seller the benefit of the doubt, I would call it Fine (and polished) but that still puts it 2 grades out - and this from someone with 'coins' in their handle!. Actual value = zip.

Shall we tell him?

[SionGilbey 1]

Spot on grading

Just proves the punters out there have no idea....a polished NF.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1900-Victoria-Old-Widow-Head-adamcoinsgb-EF-/260781101273?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3cb7c3d0d9

Giving the seller the benefit of the doubt, I would call it Fine (and polished) but that still puts it 2 grades out - and this from someone with 'coins' in their handle!. Actual value = zip.

Shall we tell him?

Are we vigilantes in the world of overgraded coins on eBay?

If the buyers can't see that the dolt has overgraded it from the crappy coin in the picture, that's their look out.

If all his coins are likewise overgraded, maybe we should provide the seller with a link to The Standard Guide to Grading British Coins.

[Boomstick 0]

The final sold price shows that the buyers aren't fooled. It just makes him look like a bit of a joker and makes it less likely that serious collectors will go anywhere near his stuff.

[Rob 3,152]

The final sold price shows that the buyers aren't fooled. It just makes him look like a bit of a joker and makes it less likely that serious collectors will go anywhere near his stuff.

The guy with the feedback of 160 was pushing the boat out a bit with a bid of £2.50 + postage The others were probably shills. Nobody is going to be that desperate to get a worn OH penny.

He is probably also an immigrant. Read the English and the items he sells. Everything is EF.

Edited May 15, 2011 by Rob

[SionGilbey 1]

The final sold price shows that the buyers aren't fooled. It just makes him look like a bit of a joker and makes it less likely that serious collectors will go anywhere near his stuff.

The guy with the feedback of 160 was pushing the boat out a bit with a bid of £2.50 + postage The others were probably shills. Nobody is going to be that desperate to get a worn OH penny.

He is probably also an immigrant. Read the English and the items he sells. Everything is EF.

He does indeed list almost all his coins as EF.

He does not write in perfect English but this does not mean he is an immigrant - I've seen people who are native to this country speak in appalling English whilst I know some German, Polish and Indian immigrants whose English is better than mine.

As for his coins:

Caveat emptor.

His photos are quite good so it is quite easy to grade from the photo. If one decided to pick out anyone who sold an over-graded coin on eBay one would be left with as many sellers as one could count on one's fingers.

[Red Riley 2]

As for his coins:

Caveat emptor.

Would normally agree, but there's a lot of kids buy coins on e-bay and frankly I'd prefer they weren't ripped off...

[Rob 3,152]

The final sold price shows that the buyers aren't fooled. It just makes him look like a bit of a joker and makes it less likely that serious collectors will go anywhere near his stuff.

The guy with the feedback of 160 was pushing the boat out a bit with a bid of £2.50 + postage The others were probably shills. Nobody is going to be that desperate to get a worn OH penny.

He is probably also an immigrant. Read the English and the items he sells. Everything is EF.

He does indeed list almost all his coins as EF.

He does not write in perfect English but this does not mean he is an immigrant - I've seen people who are native to this country speak in appalling English whilst I know some German, Polish and Indian immigrants whose English is better than mine.

As for his coins:

Caveat emptor.

His photos are quite good so it is quite easy to grade from the photo. If one decided to pick out anyone who sold an over-graded coin on eBay one would be left with as many sellers as one could count on one's fingers.

I know a lot of English people can't cope with their own language. It was the use of specific words at certain places that indicates English isn't the first language (in the foreigner sense rather than simple UK primate sense) such if the item DIES in the Royal Mail, or sending things by Royal Air Mail. Little nuances that say not a native. The rest is a pretty good effort though. If it had been bad English by a native, there would have been many more mistakes and strictly no punctuation.

Edited May 15, 2011 by Rob

[Peckris 579]

I know a lot of English people can't cope with their own language. It was the use of specific words at certain places that indicates English isn't the first language (in the foreigner sense rather than simple UK primate sense) such if the item DIES in the Royal Mail, or sending things by Royal Air Mail. Little nuances that say not a native. The rest is a pretty good effort though. If it had been bad English by a native, there would have been many more mistakes and strictly no punctuation.

Damn right. I was reflecting only today that the word 'inflammable' has virtually disappeared now leaving its bastard cousin 'flammable' as the only option.

[Cerbera100 0]

Damn right. I was reflecting only today that the word 'inflammable' has virtually disappeared now leaving its bastard cousin 'flammable' as the only option.

Dare we ask why?! The reflection part I mean, I'd suggest that the disappearance is due in part to the 'common' man believing inflammable to mean 'unflammable' rather than very flammable!

As my 6th form Chemistry teacher once joked - 'this asbestos stuff is wonderful, completely inflammable'!

[Accumulator 52]

Damn right. I was reflecting only today that the word 'inflammable' has virtually disappeared now leaving its bastard cousin 'flammable' as the only option.

Dare we ask why?! The reflection part I mean, I'd suggest that the disappearance is due in part to the 'common' man believing inflammable to mean 'unflammable' rather than very flammable!

As my 6th form Chemistry teacher once joked - 'this asbestos stuff is wonderful, completely inflammable'!

Or as your 'common man' might correctly say: Inflammable? Well it ain't never gonna catch fire!

Edited May 16, 2011 by Accumulator

[Cerbera100 0]

Then there's this"oldest on e-Bay" and "worth a fair bit as seen on Antiques Road Show" 1940 penny (which it clearly isn't) that would set you back precisely seventy nine pounds and fifty four pence!

Check out his feedback including the gem: "Lights didnt work panel had lots missing screws and was filthy but Fast delivery". So that's ok then!

My friendly note to him:

Dear jsp69jsp,

I suppose you've noticed that the picture you've supplied is not a 1940 penny, but one of 1900?!

Also, the 'penny' has been in circulation since the mid-900's AD, so 1940 isn't exactly old!

- cerbera100

His reply...

Dear cerbera100,

so this isnt a question about the penny at all, just you telling me pointless information

thanks

- jsp69jsp

So apparently informing someone that their title, image and description are utterly wrong is 'pointless information'... Do wonders never cease?!

Question is, do I reply, and if so how?!

[SionGilbey 1]

As for his coins:

Caveat emptor.

Would normally agree, but there's a lot of kids buy coins on e-bay and frankly I'd prefer they weren't ripped off...

I've seen the picture... a five year old could tell it was a crap coin!

If they're responsible enough to own an eBay account and bid, they're responsible enough to deal with the consequences.

Over-graded coins are NOT a rarity on eBay.

By all means, send the seller a message complaining about the over-grading but if you browse through the "Coins" category on eBay you will see Mr. Adamcoinsgb is not alone in over-grading coins.

I'm not sticking up for him, I despise the sellers who trick their customers into buying rubbish, and the last thing I'd advocate is discouraging young collectors but, sadly, he is not the first to sell crappy coins and is not the last.

There is zilch we can do about it, people will always try to make out that their products are better than they are; there are numerous examples of this in this thread.

[Accumulator 52]

Then there's this"oldest on e-Bay" and "worth a fair bit as seen on Antiques Road Show" 1940 penny (which it clearly isn't) that would set you back precisely seventy nine pounds and fifty four pence!

Check out his feedback including the gem: "Lights didnt work panel had lots missing screws and was filthy but Fast delivery". So that's ok then!

My friendly note to him:

Dear jsp69jsp,

I suppose you've noticed that the picture you've supplied is not a 1940 penny, but one of 1900?!

Also, the 'penny' has been in circulation since the mid-900's AD, so 1940 isn't exactly old!

- cerbera100

His reply...

Dear cerbera100,

so this isnt a question about the penny at all, just you telling me pointless information

thanks

- jsp69jsp

So apparently informing someone that their title, image and description are utterly wrong is 'pointless information'... Do wonders never cease?!

Question is, do I reply, and if so how?!

Why am I not surprised.

You could turn it into a 'question about the penny' though. How about, "Why is this nice penny owned by an idiot who believes it to be from 1940 when a poorly trained monkey could tell him that it's dated 1900? Moreover, why does the same brainless moron advertise it as the 'oldest on eBay' when the most basic grasp of numeracy would indicate otherwise?" Or something along those lines.

Anyway, hopefully he will get his comeuppance when it sells at auction for 99p rather than the £75.54 BIN price!

Edited May 16, 2011 by Accumulator

[Peckris 579]

Then there's this"oldest on e-Bay" and "worth a fair bit as seen on Antiques Road Show" 1940 penny (which it clearly isn't) that would set you back precisely seventy nine pounds and fifty four pence!

Check out his feedback including the gem: "Lights didnt work panel had lots missing screws and was filthy but Fast delivery". So that's ok then!

My friendly note to him:

Dear jsp69jsp,

I suppose you've noticed that the picture you've supplied is not a 1940 penny, but one of 1900?!

Also, the 'penny' has been in circulation since the mid-900's AD, so 1940 isn't exactly old!

- cerbera100

His reply...

Dear cerbera100,

so this isnt a question about the penny at all, just you telling me pointless information

thanks

- jsp69jsp

So apparently informing someone that their title, image and description are utterly wrong is 'pointless information'... Do wonders never cease?!

Question is, do I reply, and if so how?!

Why am I not surprised.

You could turn it into a 'question about the penny' though. How about, "Why is this nice penny owned by an idiot who believes it to be from 1940 when a poorly trained monkey could tell him that it's dated 1900? Moreover, why does the same brainless moron advertise it as the 'oldest on eBay' when the most basic grasp of numeracy would indicate otherwise?" Or something along those lines.

Anyway, hopefully he will get his comeuppance when it sells at auction for 99p rather than the £75.54 BIN price!

So he has no "sarky get out" I've messaged him asking simply "Is it 1940 as in the description or 1900 as in the photo?" Let's see how he gets out of a straight question.

[Accumulator 52]

I always wondered what the H stood for?