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[azda 979]

A coin with 3 grades. UNC, BU and PROOF

http://www.ebay.co.u...615799275042041

That guy is a complete TWAT.

I know, we had a...........errrr, conversation about his 3 grades. Personally the coin looks polished to me

Edited June 23, 2012 by azda

[Peckris 579]

A coin with 3 grades. UNC, BU and PROOF

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/narkypoon-s-SCARCE-UNCIRCULATED-1937-PROOF-George-VI-SILVER-Half-Crown-BU?item=261047086839&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D110615799275042041

Strangely enough, I'd had a high grade 1937 halfcrown for yonkeys, then examining it closely one day I was struck by the slight mirroring in the fields, but even more by the razor sharp rim. I've now provisionally reclassified it as a proof. However, I do accept that it must have come from a broken set, and as for being rare

Having said all that, I think George VI proofs are the most difficult to tell apart from normal issues. They're not very good, let's face it.

[DaveG38 405]

A coin with 3 grades. UNC, BU and PROOF

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/narkypoon-s-SCARCE-UNCIRCULATED-1937-PROOF-George-VI-SILVER-Half-Crown-BU?item=261047086839&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D110615799275042041

Strangely enough, I'd had a high grade 1937 halfcrown for yonkeys, then examining it closely one day I was struck by the slight mirroring in the fields, but even more by the razor sharp rim. I've now provisionally reclassified it as a proof. However, I do accept that it must have come from a broken set, and as for being rare

Having said all that, I think George VI proofs are the most difficult to tell apart from normal issues. They're not very good, let's face it.

Why is that? My proof has a frosted effigy and is very different from the ordinary strike.

[azda 979]

I think frosted Proofs are more difficult to define. Personally i've never seen, or know what a frosted looks like....Anyone have one to compare?

[argentumandcoins 70]

I think frosted Proofs are more difficult to define. Personally i've never seen, or know what a frosted looks like....Anyone have one to compare?

Errr, it looks like frost?

The £1 proof you stuck on the acq thread is frosted on the portrait and shield ne pas?

[Nick 329]

A coin with 3 grades. UNC, BU and PROOF

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/narkypoon-s-SCARCE-UNCIRCULATED-1937-PROOF-George-VI-SILVER-Half-Crown-BU?item=261047086839&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D110615799275042041

Strangely enough, I'd had a high grade 1937 halfcrown for yonkeys, then examining it closely one day I was struck by the slight mirroring in the fields, but even more by the razor sharp rim. I've now provisionally reclassified it as a proof. However, I do accept that it must have come from a broken set, and as for being rare

Having said all that, I think George VI proofs are the most difficult to tell apart from normal issues. They're not very good, let's face it.

Why is that? My proof has a frosted effigy and is very different from the ordinary strike.

Mine does too. Here's a piccy of my 1937 florin proof obverse.

[azda 979]

Yes but where is the difference between the frosted and a normal proof...........A fine line?

[Peckris 579]

A coin with 3 grades. UNC, BU and PROOF

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/narkypoon-s-SCARCE-UNCIRCULATED-1937-PROOF-George-VI-SILVER-Half-Crown-BU?item=261047086839&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D110615799275042041

Strangely enough, I'd had a high grade 1937 halfcrown for yonkeys, then examining it closely one day I was struck by the slight mirroring in the fields, but even more by the razor sharp rim. I've now provisionally reclassified it as a proof. However, I do accept that it must have come from a broken set, and as for being rare

Having said all that, I think George VI proofs are the most difficult to tell apart from normal issues. They're not very good, let's face it.

Why is that? My proof has a frosted effigy and is very different from the ordinary strike.

Mine does too. Here's a piccy of my 1937 florin proof obverse.

Yes, I should have qualified my remark by saying that some George VI proofs feature frosting, but many don't. That's what I meant about "not very good". You can see entire 37 or 50 or 51 proof sets that aren't frosted, ditto 1953. Others are "barely frosted". Treasure the frosted ones you find, - they should command a premium.

There's a VIP 1951 crown on Mark Rasmussen's site that looks like a frosted normal example. But maybe the VIP quality is obvious in hand, but not in the picture.

[DaveG38 405]

A coin with 3 grades. UNC, BU and PROOF

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/narkypoon-s-SCARCE-UNCIRCULATED-1937-PROOF-George-VI-SILVER-Half-Crown-BU?item=261047086839&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D110615799275042041

Strangely enough, I'd had a high grade 1937 halfcrown for yonkeys, then examining it closely one day I was struck by the slight mirroring in the fields, but even more by the razor sharp rim. I've now provisionally reclassified it as a proof. However, I do accept that it must have come from a broken set, and as for being rare

Having said all that, I think George VI proofs are the most difficult to tell apart from normal issues. They're not very good, let's face it.

Why is that? My proof has a frosted effigy and is very different from the ordinary strike.

Mine does too. Here's a piccy of my 1937 florin proof obverse.

Yep, that could be my Crown obverse.

[seuk 85]

Anybody figure what's going on here? £430.00 for a forgery, when all the others from this seller are much more reasonable? Admitedly. I haven't seen a 1787 halfpenny before but even so...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/George-III-1787-contemporary-forgery-halfpenny-/140772977442?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item20c6b92b22

Either there's some determined shilling going on (suspicious bidding pattern, yes?), or else someone desperately wants it for the date. But I agree, it's a weird one. You wouldn't raise that for a regular EF halfpenny of that series, so your guess is as good as mine.

Richard is not a shiller, so we can put that to bed.

Is it lost on you that the date does not exist and does not turn up among forgeries? The price is high because it is contemporary, rare and in good condition for a series that is regularly very poorly produced. No mystery just simple supply and demand.

As you see John, that's what I said!! But on that basis, a unique date of a "To Hanover" gaming token or faked spade guinea, should command a similar value. All we're saying is that it's a weirdly high price - albeit a unique date - for what is, at the end of the day, a forgery.

Though I collect George III counterfeits I know next to nothing about the copper series. However some of those were produced in America, and if that's the case the price will probably be much higher than an English counterfeit.

Your latest was sent today with 5 shillings included

[DaveG38 405]

Not really an ebay laugh, but an interesting item. A 1965 sixpence that appears to have delaminated. However, the 'strike' almost looks cast to me. If so why bother to forge a 1965 sixpence? At best it would have bought a cup of tea in Joe Lyons!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261052939762&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

Edited June 25, 2012 by DaveG38

[Generic Lad 25]

Yes, that is unusual. I've been keeping an eye on the seller's other items too, a lot of them are things you don't see everyday. A good amount of love tokens and other engraved coins.

[Generic Lad 25]

And I just realized its all being sold by one of our forum members

Might have to buy something if it goes at the right price...

[Gary D 76]

Not really an ebay laugh, but an interesting item. A 1965 sixpence that appears to have delaminated. However, the 'strike' almost looks cast to me. If so why bother to forge a 1965 sixpence? At best it would have bought a cup of tea in Joe Lyons!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261052939762&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

That look legit to me, the top half of the lamination is missing. What you see has been struck through the missing bit.

[Peckris 579]

Not really an ebay laugh, but an interesting item. A 1965 sixpence that appears to have delaminated. However, the 'strike' almost looks cast to me. If so why bother to forge a 1965 sixpence? At best it would have bought a cup of tea in Joe Lyons!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261052939762&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

My view is that the damage was present at striking and the resulting coin either missed by inspectors or pocketed by one with an eye for a curio. Notice the weakness of the strike to the left of the split, compared to what looks like a normal strike to the right. I don't think it's a forgery.

[DaveG38 405]

Not really an ebay laugh, but an interesting item. A 1965 sixpence that appears to have delaminated. However, the 'strike' almost looks cast to me. If so why bother to forge a 1965 sixpence? At best it would have bought a cup of tea in Joe Lyons!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261052939762&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

My view is that the damage was present at striking and the resulting coin either missed by inspectors or pocketed by one with an eye for a curio. Notice the weakness of the strike to the left of the split, compared to what looks like a normal strike to the right. I don't think it's a forgery.

I wasn't really suggesting that it was, just that the strike looked odd to the left of the lamination. Having looked again, it's clear that the RHS looks normal and the LHS is either weakly struck or as Gary suggests struck through a missing piece. Interesting though.

[Coinery 1,148]

Not really an ebay laugh, but an interesting item. A 1965 sixpence that appears to have delaminated. However, the 'strike' almost looks cast to me. If so why bother to forge a 1965 sixpence? At best it would have bought a cup of tea in Joe Lyons!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261052939762&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

That look legit to me, the top half of the lamination is missing. What you see has been struck through the missing bit.

My thoughts too, Gary!

[Gary D 76]

Not really an ebay laugh, but an interesting item. A 1965 sixpence that appears to have delaminated. However, the 'strike' almost looks cast to me. If so why bother to forge a 1965 sixpence? At best it would have bought a cup of tea in Joe Lyons!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261052939762&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

That look legit to me, the top half of the lamination is missing. What you see has been struck through the missing bit.

My thoughts too, Gary!

I have a 1967 penny that is splitting and the body of the coin looks identical to that inside the split.

[Debbie 58]

Am I missing something here? My link

[Rob 3,152]

Am I missing something here? My link

Yes. He hit an upper case 4 by mistake. The price should be A(stronomical) U(nits) 4179500. Sorry for any confusion.

[DaveG38 405]

Am I missing something here? My link

You're certainly not missing a bargain!

[Mongo 1]

Am I missing something here? My link

You're certainly not missing a bargain!

I think that is a tactic to drive traffic to their other listings! probably works too

[Debbie 58]

You know I think you could be right!

[Paulus 1,975]

Innovative way to entice people into one's eBay auction!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-x-Florins-Why-cant-a-lady-with-only-one-leg-change-a-1-note-Open-4-Answer-/290736316874?pt=UK_Coins_OtherBritish_RL&hash=item43b13c21ca#ht_500wt_1413

[Coinery 1,148]

Innovative way to entice people into one's eBay auction!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-x-Florins-Why-cant-a-lady-with-only-one-leg-change-a-1-note-Open-4-Answer-/290736316874?pt=UK_Coins_OtherBritish_RL&hash=item43b13c21ca#ht_500wt_1413

Excellent, I came very close to expanding upon that joke!