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[Peter 615]

Yes you are probably right there David, hadn't thought about it like that.

Rob remind me never to eat any of your home cooking!

Nonsense. Yesterday I was congratulated on converting the previous day's anaemic offerings into something really tasty second time round. It was only braised beef though with veggies, and browned mash sealing in all the flavour.

Maybe it is me but I think us chaps cook better given the chance.I can't eat Mrs Peter's spag bol without a chop or chicken portion.

Her Pork in lemonade as well as her asparagus and kippers will be remembered for the wrong reason.I have also endured dill with a bit of salmon.

I often cook on a Sunday with fresh veg,a good cut of meat and plenty of gravy and good wine

[Rob 3,152]

Yes you are probably right there David, hadn't thought about it like that.

Rob remind me never to eat any of your home cooking!

Nonsense. Yesterday I was congratulated on converting the previous day's anaemic offerings into something really tasty second time round. It was only braised beef though with veggies, and browned mash sealing in all the flavour.

Maybe it is me but I think us chaps cook better given the chance.I can't eat Mrs Peter's spag bol without a chop or chicken portion.

Her Pork in lemonade as well as her asparagus and kippers will be remembered for the wrong reason.I have also endured dill with a bit of salmon.

I often cook on a Sunday with fresh veg,a good cut of meat and plenty of gravy and good wine

To be honest, I'm not surprised. An unlikely combination.

[Peter 615]

Yes you are probably right there David, hadn't thought about it like that.

Rob remind me never to eat any of your home cooking!

Nonsense. Yesterday I was congratulated on converting the previous day's anaemic offerings into something really tasty second time round. It was only braised beef though with veggies, and browned mash sealing in all the flavour.

Maybe it is me but I think us chaps cook better given the chance.I can't eat Mrs Peter's spag bol without a chop or chicken portion.

Her Pork in lemonade as well as her asparagus and kippers will be remembered for the wrong reason.I have also endured dill with a bit of salmon.

I often cook on a Sunday with fresh veg,a good cut of meat and plenty of gravy and good wine

To be honest, I'm not surprised. An unlikely combination.

I always expect the unexpected with Mrs Peter.Off the logic rails sometimes but I wouldn't change a thing.

[Peter 615]

How on earth do 8 bidders bid 22 times for a worn brasso

treated coin.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-George-III-Cartwheel-Twopence-/221063037403?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item33786241db#ht_500wt_1287

Edited July 5, 2012 by Peter

[Hussulo 6]

What do you mean, it must be unc, look at the colour of it. Fresh as the day it was made

[Coinery 1,148]

How on earth do 8 bidders bid 22 times for a worn brasso

treated coin.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-George-III-Cartwheel-Twopence-/221063037403?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item33786241db#ht_500wt_1287

I was looking at this one myself, it's actually pretty high grade, with little in the way of bag marks, and a superb edge, only a little bit of overspill. I had my eye on it for a retone, but not at that price!

Edited July 5, 2012 by Coinery

[Hussulo 6]

What do you mean, it must be unc, look at the colour of it. Fresh as the day it was made

Just incase there are newbie collectors reading, I was being sarcastic. Don't bid on it at that price because it has obviously been cleaned.

[Peckris 579]

How on earth do 8 bidders bid 22 times for a worn brasso

treated coin.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-George-III-Cartwheel-Twopence-/221063037403?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item33786241db#ht_500wt_1287

I was looking at this one myself, it's actually pretty high grade, with little in the way of bag marks, and a superb edge, only a little bit of overspill. I had my eye on it for a retone, but not at that price!

My thoughts too. What a shame it was cleaned, it would be very collectable otherwise.

[Coinery 1,148]

How on earth do 8 bidders bid 22 times for a worn brasso

treated coin.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-George-III-Cartwheel-Twopence-/221063037403?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item33786241db#ht_500wt_1287

I was looking at this one myself, it's actually pretty high grade, with little in the way of bag marks, and a superb edge, only a little bit of overspill. I had my eye on it for a retone, but not at that price!

My thoughts too. What a shame it was cleaned, it would be very collectable otherwise.

And bought at a car boot, apparently! I wonder if it would break their hearts to hear of 'what it could've been worth,' had it not been cleaned? Imagine if they cleaned it themselves to make it look more appealing before listing it on eBay? (

[Peckris 579]

How on earth do 8 bidders bid 22 times for a worn brasso

treated coin.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-George-III-Cartwheel-Twopence-/221063037403?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item33786241db#ht_500wt_1287

I was looking at this one myself, it's actually pretty high grade, with little in the way of bag marks, and a superb edge, only a little bit of overspill. I had my eye on it for a retone, but not at that price!

My thoughts too. What a shame it was cleaned, it would be very collectable otherwise.

And bought at a car boot, apparently! I wonder if it would break their hearts to hear of 'what it could've been worth,' had it not been cleaned? Imagine if they cleaned it themselves to make it look more appealing before listing it on eBay? (

Yet it's already at £160 with more than two hours to go - they may not lose so very much after all. Which says more about the bidders than anything else.

[Rob 3,152]

Just checking through the ebay listings for error coins, it's amazing what is claimed as an error. Here's one that is claimed as an error because GVLIELMVS is correct and as such an error because Spink doesn't list the spelling!! Help me God. GVLIELMVS without error, in error if you see what I mean

[Coinery 1,148]

Just checking through the ebay listings for error coins, it's amazing what is claimed as an error. Here's one that is claimed as an error because GVLIELMVS is correct and as such an error because Spink doesn't list the spelling!! Help me God. GVLIELMVS without error, in error if you see what I mean

Should know better than that when selling a rare-bust Willyum (error spelling) coyn! He knows it's worth a bit, he can't be a fool for the rest of it, surely?

On a slightly different scale, the number of those who think they've got an 8 over 7 in Elizabeth coinage, just drives me to despair, not that it's even that unusual anyway! I know everyone is learning, but if you do have an 'oddity' you want to use as a selling point, at least spend 10 minutes finding out about it!

[Rob 3,152]

This guy's lost the plot too. Long cross over bell as a mint mark? 1580 was two years before the first ever issue of a bell marked coin. It is clearly double struck as you can see an O (or similar) or part of one superimposed on the adjacent P along with a couple of other characters in the general area. E1 sixpence. Although it must be due to double striking, I'm struggling to reconcile it to the existing legend on either side.

[Coinery 1,148]

This guy's lost the plot too. Long cross over bell as a mint mark? 1580 was two years before the first ever issue of a bell marked coin. It is clearly double struck as you can see an O (or similar) or part of one superimposed on the adjacent P along with a couple of other characters in the general area. E1 sixpence. Although it must be due to double striking, I'm struggling to reconcile it to the existing legend on either side.

He's done well to fairytale a bell out of the foot of the P!

I think the 11o'clock'ish legend double-strike is actually showing the upper left-hand component of the V? I'm only making that assumption based on the locations of the double-struck P&O of ferry!

Actually, just revisited that reverse...it can't be the V, it's in the wrong place comparative to the P&O, very strange!

Edited July 5, 2012 by Coinery

[Rob 3,152]

This guy's lost the plot too. Long cross over bell as a mint mark? 1580 was two years before the first ever issue of a bell marked coin. It is clearly double struck as you can see an O (or similar) or part of one superimposed on the adjacent P along with a couple of other characters in the general area. E1 sixpence. Although it must be due to double striking, I'm struggling to reconcile it to the existing legend on either side.

He's done well to fairytale a bell out of the foot of the P!

I think the 11o'clock'ish legend double-strike is actually showing the upper left-hand component of the V? I'm only making that assumption based on the locations of the double-struck P&O of ferry!

Actually, just revisited that reverse...it can't be the V, it's in the wrong place comparative to the P&O, very strange!

I think I've got it. The clue is in the right hand leg of the double struck cross. The bell is an offset P which is also not fully struck up and so resembles the side of an A which is the main cause for confusion - I couldn't reconcile AO in the legend and the O could not be the D of ADIVTORE. POSVI is there twice, rotated and displaced outwards to NNW. Detail would help, but hey, when you have an impossible error you must take what comes.

[Coinery 1,148]

This guy's lost the plot too. Long cross over bell as a mint mark? 1580 was two years before the first ever issue of a bell marked coin. It is clearly double struck as you can see an O (or similar) or part of one superimposed on the adjacent P along with a couple of other characters in the general area. E1 sixpence. Although it must be due to double striking, I'm struggling to reconcile it to the existing legend on either side.

He's done well to fairytale a bell out of the foot of the P!

I think the 11o'clock'ish legend double-strike is actually showing the upper left-hand component of the V? I'm only making that assumption based on the locations of the double-struck P&O of ferry!

Actually, just revisited that reverse...it can't be the V, it's in the wrong place comparative to the P&O, very strange!

I think I've got it. The clue is in the right hand leg of the double struck cross. The bell is an offset P which is also not fully struck up and so resembles the side of an A which is the main cause for confusion - I couldn't reconcile AO in the legend and the O could not be the D of ADIVTORE. POSVI is there twice, rotated and displaced outwards to NNW. Detail would help, but hey, when you have an impossible error you must take what comes.

impossible error? I've just spotted a Lis to the right of the obverse privy mark, he/she's got something rather special in that coin, I can hardly understand why they're selling it? I hope it goes to a good home, however, someone who will appreciate it!

[Peter 615]

There are some sellers that think every coin is an error or state it is.There are some sellers who are oblivious to what they have got and that includes BNTA members.

Know your subject.Simples

[Rob 3,152]

Just checking through the ebay listings for error coins, it's amazing what is claimed as an error. Here's one that is claimed as an error because GVLIELMVS is correct and as such an error because Spink doesn't list the spelling!! Help me God. GVLIELMVS without error, in error if you see what I mean

Looks like somebody told him he was talking complete bo**ocks. Now relisted correctly. here. Hardly a bargain though at £650 when you could buy the Slaney coin off Allan Davisson's last list for $4K.

[Coinery 1,148]

Just checking through the ebay listings for error coins, it's amazing what is claimed as an error. Here's one that is claimed as an error because GVLIELMVS is correct and as such an error because Spink doesn't list the spelling!! Help me God. GVLIELMVS without error, in error if you see what I mean

Looks like somebody told him he was talking complete bo**ocks. Now relisted correctly. here. Hardly a bargain though at £650 when you could buy the Slaney coin off Allan Davisson's last list for $4K.

He's apparently got some interesting things to come too!

[HistoricCoinage 146]

Look familiar?

[Debbie 58]

Surely this isn't real is it? here

[Coinery 1,148]

Surely this isn't real is it? here

With a picture of that quality and showing only about 2/3 of one side, he isn't giving anybody much of a chance to decide! If it IS genuine, he's done himself a great disservice with the image and listing!

I've got a number of fake images now, even bought a couple for a closer look, so it would have been interesting to compare, if his images were better!

[azda 979]

Surely this isn't real is it? here

With a picture of that quality and showing only about 2/3 of one side, he isn't giving anybody much of a chance to decide! If it IS genuine, he's done himself a great disservice with the image and listing!

I've got a number of fake images now, even bought a couple for a closer look, so it would have been interesting to compare, if his images were better!

It is kind fo of curious as he states in his auction "Money from the English Civil War (1642-1649). This 'siege money'or'money of necessity' was used to pay garrisons in some of the Royalist townsbesieged during the Civil War. These interesting anomalies are from themuseum's Early Modern coin collection" but also states Ref No: INV. 15757/ BOLMG: 1901.19 Finney collection

I would'nt bid on the strength of the picture, far to small, but sometimes that can go for the bidder

Edited July 7, 2012 by azda

[argentumandcoins 70]

Surely this isn't real is it? here

Looks about as genuine as Katie Prices lady bumps!

[azda 979]

Surely this isn't real is it? here

Looks about as genuine as Katie Prices lady bumps!

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