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[Coinery 1,153]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110994743055?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

OHHHHHHHH MY GOD...........cant believe this, why not pick one up for a quid and get it slabbed?......or just get one for a quid.

ski

It's a CGS slab, and the seller's name contains 'lockett'. Far be it from me to start a conspiracy theory, but ...

Sellers address is Longfield Kent. Gill Lockett. Does Stink a little though

email gill@londoncoins.etc. I think that confirms! I always wondered who slabbed coins worth less than the cost of slabbing!

[declanwmagee 122]

email gill@londoncoins.etc. I think that confirms! I always wondered who slabbed coins worth less than the cost of slabbing!

Which still leaves us wondering who'll pay £32 for a Churchill Crown?

And where can I find these people?

[azda 979]

email gill@londoncoins.etc. I think that confirms! I always wondered who slabbed coins worth less than the cost of slabbing!

Which still leaves us wondering who'll pay £32 for a Churchill Crown?

And where can I find these people?

Billpuguk and it was actually £33.02

Edited January 6, 2013 by azda

[Peter 615]

Coins worth £1 max are selling for silly money.The buyers are pathetic or part of the set up.

1963 1d,1955 1/-,1948 florin.....about £2 from a good dealer.

[Peckris 579]

email gill@londoncoins.etc. I think that confirms! I always wondered who slabbed coins worth less than the cost of slabbing!

Which still leaves us wondering who'll pay £32 for a Churchill Crown?

And where can I find these people?

Billpuguk and it was actually £33.02

To continue the conspiracy theory.. Gill Lockett of London Coins puts a slabbed Churchill on the 'Bay. A "stooge" bids over £30 for it (and then gets their money refunded minus a bit of commission). Next thing we know, London Coins are rating/selling slabbed Churchills at £15 a pop, and point to the £30+ auction to show how "conservative" they are being. Then we see them going on eBay from sellers unconnected with London Coins, and wide-eyed punters willing to pay anything between £10 and £20 each..

[Gary D 76]

email gill@londoncoins.etc. I think that confirms! I always wondered who slabbed coins worth less than the cost of slabbing!

Which still leaves us wondering who'll pay £32 for a Churchill Crown?

And where can I find these people?

Billpuguk and it was actually £33.02

To continue the conspiracy theory.. Gill Lockett of London Coins puts a slabbed Churchill on the 'Bay. A "stooge" bids over £30 for it (and then gets their money refunded minus a bit of commission). Next thing we know, London Coins are rating/selling slabbed Churchills at £15 a pop, and point to the £30+ auction to show how "conservative" they are being. Then we see them going on eBay from sellers unconnected with London Coins, and wide-eyed punters willing to pay anything between £10 and £20 each..

How's anyone going to believe their hype if they have no sales to back it up.

[1949threepence 3,367]

The seller is certainly having a laugh now after getting what he did for this coin

NIce coin, but there's no way an 1876H narrow date, even in that condition, is worth that much.

I'm almost tempted to mention the "S" word, but I won't.

[Peckris 579]

The seller is certainly having a laugh now after getting what he did for this coin

NIce coin, but there's no way an 1876H narrow date, even in that condition, is worth that much.

I'm almost tempted to mention the "S" word, but I won't.

Notice how the bidding went from £255 to £333 in one leap? No-one is going to tell me that's not suspicious!

[1949threepence 3,367]

The seller is certainly having a laugh now after getting what he did for this coin

NIce coin, but there's no way an 1876H narrow date, even in that condition, is worth that much.

I'm almost tempted to mention the "S" word, but I won't.

Notice how the bidding went from £255 to £333 in one leap? No-one is going to tell me that's not suspicious!

Yes, very suspicious.

When it first appeared, I was considering a punt on it, with a view to an upgrade, but soon changed my mind when I saw where it was headed.

[Rob 3,152]

The seller is certainly having a laugh now after getting what he did for this coin

NIce coin, but there's no way an 1876H narrow date, even in that condition, is worth that much.

I'm almost tempted to mention the "S" word, but I won't.

Notice how the bidding went from £255 to £333 in one leap? No-one is going to tell me that's not suspicious!

No reason why a leap of that magnitude should be any more suspicious than small increments. If I bid on a coin at £200 and put a max of 400, then it will go to the next bid up from 200 (205 or 210 or whatever it is). If a second person puts in a bid of £450, then it will go to £400 + one increment with the second person winning. Far more suspicious is the anonymity issue where a shill bidder can beat the high bidder repeatedly without third parties being able to identify the person responsible.

[Red Riley 2]

The seller is certainly having a laugh now after getting what he did for this coin

NIce coin, but there's no way an 1876H narrow date, even in that condition, is worth that much.

I'm almost tempted to mention the "S" word, but I won't.

I put a snipe on it, but came up way short. I would however consider something like that for a wide date.

[Colin G. 147]

The seller is certainly having a laugh now after getting what he did for this coin

NIce coin, but there's no way an 1876H narrow date, even in that condition, is worth that much.

I'm almost tempted to mention the "S" word, but I won't.

Notice how the bidding went from £255 to £333 in one leap? No-one is going to tell me that's not suspicious!

No reason why a leap of that magnitude should be any more suspicious than small increments. If I bid on a coin at £200 and put a max of 400, then it will go to the next bid up from 200 (205 or 210 or whatever it is). If a second person puts in a bid of £450, then it will go to £400 + one increment with the second person winning. Far more suspicious is the anonymity issue where a shill bidder can beat the high bidder repeatedly without third parties being able to identify the person responsible.

I agree, I would be more suspicious if the bidding crawled its way up a few pounds at a time.

[1949threepence 3,367]

The seller is certainly having a laugh now after getting what he did for this coin

NIce coin, but there's no way an 1876H narrow date, even in that condition, is worth that much.

I'm almost tempted to mention the "S" word, but I won't.

Notice how the bidding went from £255 to £333 in one leap? No-one is going to tell me that's not suspicious!

No reason why a leap of that magnitude should be any more suspicious than small increments. If I bid on a coin at £200 and put a max of 400, then it will go to the next bid up from 200 (205 or 210 or whatever it is). If a second person puts in a bid of £450, then it will go to £400 + one increment with the second person winning. Far more suspicious is the anonymity issue where a shill bidder can beat the high bidder repeatedly without third parties being able to identify the person responsible.

I agree, I would be more suspicious if the bidding crawled its way up a few pounds at a time.

I wouldn't be suspicious with a jump of that gradient, if it were a different coin. But for an 1876H narrow date, which arguably, isn't even worth the lower amount, I'm exceedingly suspicious of such a jump. It showed the kind of activity which you might expect from the much scarcer 1876H wide date. Existing doubt is certainly compounded by the private bidder listings, but in isolation that would not necessarily lend itself to suspicion if the bids were closer to what one might have expected.

Still agree with Peck on this.

Edited January 11, 2013 by 1949threepence

[1949threepence 3,367]

The seller is certainly having a laugh now after getting what he did for this coin

NIce coin, but there's no way an 1876H narrow date, even in that condition, is worth that much.

I'm almost tempted to mention the "S" word, but I won't.

I put a snipe on it, but came up way short. I would however consider something like that for a wide date.

Agreed. For a wide date in that condition, it's the kind of end price one might reasonably expect ~ and be willing to pay, actually.

[Gary D 76]

The seller is certainly having a laugh now after getting what he did for this coin

NIce coin, but there's no way an 1876H narrow date, even in that condition, is worth that much.

I'm almost tempted to mention the "S" word, but I won't.

I put a snipe on it, but came up way short. I would however consider something like that for a wide date.

Agreed. For a wide date in that condition, it's the kind of end price one might reasonably expect ~ and be willing to pay, actually.

Assuming the winning bid was genuine it's still within what the winning bidder was prepared to pay. Now the only way we could tell is if the under bidder gets a second offer.

[Paulus 1,975]

Another gorgeous 'High Grade' gem from Dave's faves:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1859-Gothic-Florin-better-grade-Rare-/271133528492?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3f20d151ac

[azda 979]

Another gorgeous 'High Grade' gem from Dave's faves:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1859-Gothic-Florin-better-grade-Rare-/271133528492?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3f20d151ac

Geezus

Edited January 12, 2013 by azda

[Nick 329]

Another gorgeous 'High Grade' gem from Dave's faves:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1859-Gothic-Florin-better-grade-Rare-/271133528492?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3f20d151ac

It's a 'better grade' than a flat disc of metal, but only just.

[DaveG38 405]

I love the description of this one. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110999976953&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

It's described as 'COINS VICTORIA JUBILEE HEAD PROOF THREEPENCE 1887 GOOD EF'.

It's not Victoria. It's not the jubilee head. It's not proof. It's not 1887. It's not Good. It's not EF. That just leaves coins and even then it's just a single coin. Otherwise a great buy at £20.00+!!!

To be fair, I'm assuming the seller has put up the wrong photos.

[bagerap 706]

To be fair, I'm assuming the seller has put up the wrong photos.

Yes, it's the pic from his coin ending two minutes later.

[DaveG38 405]

To be fair, I'm assuming the seller has put up the wrong photos.

Yes, it's the pic from his coin ending two minutes later.

Ah well, we all make msitakes. It did amuse me a little though.

[Peckris 579]

Another gorgeous 'High Grade' gem from Dave's faves:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1859-Gothic-Florin-better-grade-Rare-/271133528492?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3f20d151ac

"Better grade"? Better than TOTAL shite, perhaps!

To be fair, I'm assuming the seller has put up the wrong photos.

Yes, it's the pic from his coin ending two minutes later.

Ah well, we all make msitakes. It did amuse me a little though.

[rpeddie 119]

what do people think of these 2, i know they are both high grade but not that high

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261152347098?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261152347098?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[Nick 329]

what do people think of these 2, i know they are both high grade but not that high

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261152347098?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261152347098?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

You've replicated the link, so there is only one to comment on. I'd say it looks nicely toned and pretty close to UNC.

[Paulus 1,975]

what do people think of these 2, i know they are both high grade but not that high

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261152347098?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261152347098?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Yep, it gets an aUNC from me too