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[azda 979]

His story about getting it in his change at a nightclub and nearly causing a riot got me thinking. When i was a few years younger and into sex, drugs and Rock'n'Roll i was really concerned if i got a 1980 penny or the rare 1981 penny which obviously if it was the really rare 1982 one i'd show all my mates and we'd have a massive riot in the club so we could accertain ownetship of said rarity.

[scott 144]

mine only cost under a quid

[argentumandcoins 70]

His story about getting it in his change at a nightclub and nearly causing a riot got me thinking. When i was a few years younger and into sex, drugs and Rock'n'Roll i was really concerned if i got a 1980 penny or the rare 1981 penny which obviously if it was the really rare 1982 one i'd show all my mates and we'd have a massive riot in the club so we could accertain ownetship of said rarity.

It got me wondering what sort of merchant banker would stand checking the dates of his change in a nightclub full of totty? I used to be that intent on drink fuelled minge hunts I didn't even check if the pirate serving the drinks had pocketed half of my wad......

It did remind me of the Charles I shilling I have on my website that the King was holding at the time his head was chopped off though. It is totally authentic and I have known it since 2008 or maybe 2007. It is without doubt the one that he was holding because it only has his head on and not his body. I thought about offering it for sale via a London saleroom where it would achieve £50k plus and then I thought "sod it, I'll put it on ebay for a couple of grand to give Joe Bloggs a chance at it"

Altogether now, after 3; 1, 2, 3 WHAT A TWAT!

[davidrj 194]

mine only cost under a quid

Bought mine off John (argentumandcoins) a bit since

[Accumulator 52]

His story about getting it in his change at a nightclub and nearly causing a riot got me thinking. When i was a few years younger and into sex, drugs and Rock'n'Roll i was really concerned if i got a 1980 penny or the rare 1981 penny which obviously if it was the really rare 1982 one i'd show all my mates and we'd have a massive riot in the club so we could accertain ownetship of said rarity.

It got me wondering what sort of merchant banker would stand checking the dates of his change in a nightclub full of totty? I used to be that intent on drink fuelled minge hunts I didn't even check if the pirate serving the drinks had pocketed half of my wad......

It did remind me of the Charles I shilling I have on my website that the King was holding at the time his head was chopped off though. It is totally authentic and I have known it since 2008 or maybe 2007. It is without doubt the one that he was holding because it only has his head on and not his body. I thought about offering it for sale via a London saleroom where it would achieve £50k plus and then I thought "sod it, I'll put it on ebay for a couple of grand to give Joe Bloggs a chance at it"

Altogether now, after 3; 1, 2, 3 WHAT A TWAT!

Think I'll contact the seller with a, "Wow, didn't know that an ordinary penny was worth so much! I have a few I got from my gran's old money box and one of them say's 1933. Are you interested in making me an offer?"

[argentumandcoins 70]

mine only cost under a quid

Bought mine off John (argentumandcoins) a bit since

If memory serves David it sold for a little less than £3k, give or take £2990 less wasn't it?

[davidrj 194]

Bought mine off John (argentumandcoins) a bit since

If memory serves David it sold for a little less than £3k, give or take £2990 less wasn't it?

[Paulus 1,975]

Is this another example of why we should be sceptical of American TPGs' grading of English coins? To my eyes this is massively over-graded at MS63, but would be more than happy to understand why it might be worthy of such an attribution if someone thinks it is!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271212063871?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648

[Rob 3,152]

Is this another example of why we should be sceptical of American TPGs' grading of English coins? To my eyes this is massively over-graded at MS63, but would be more than happy to understand why it might be worthy of such an attribution if someone thinks it is!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271212063871?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648

Relax, chill out and assess coins for yourself using your standards. Nobody is forced to buy a coin just because it has a number on the label. Frequently the number assigned will be at odds with your assessment. For a better chance of satisfaction, go with your own feelings about the coin that you will have to live with until disposal. I have a 61 that is better than a 65 of the same type, both in the collection. The real bonus is the strict pricing applied in the US where a 61 is a non-coin and hence can be purchased cheaply. Number collectors will turn their noses up at excellent examples of coins simply on the grounds that another example has been graded higher. Make the most of the situation on the ground and fill your boots.

[Peter 615]

That shilling is an ugly coin

A weak strike on the obverse.

[Paulus 1,975]

Is this another example of why we should be sceptical of American TPGs' grading of English coins? To my eyes this is massively over-graded at MS63, but would be more than happy to understand why it might be worthy of such an attribution if someone thinks it is!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271212063871?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648

Relax, chill out and assess coins for yourself using your standards. Nobody is forced to buy a coin just because it has a number on the label. Frequently the number assigned will be at odds with your assessment. For a better chance of satisfaction, go with your own feelings about the coin that you will have to live with until disposal. I have a 61 that is better than a 65 of the same type, both in the collection. The real bonus is the strict pricing applied in the US where a 61 is a non-coin and hence can be purchased cheaply. Number collectors will turn their noses up at excellent examples of coins simply on the grounds that another example has been graded higher. Make the most of the situation on the ground and fill your boots.

Great advice Rob, I certainly would not 'buy the slab' instead of the coin, or rely on any TPG's grading, but I was rather shocked by this one! Thanks for the heads up on potential bargains when they get it wrong, I guess that applies to all coins offered for sale to one extent or another!

[Rob 3,152]

Don't know why it does this. repeat post.

Edited May 31, 2013 by Rob

[TomGoodheart 400]

Is this another example of why we should be sceptical of American TPGs' grading of English coins? To my eyes this is massively over-graded at MS63, but would be more than happy to understand why it might be worthy of such an attribution if someone thinks it is!

The real bonus is the strict pricing applied in the US where a 61 is a non-coin and hence can be purchased cheaply. Number collectors will turn their noses up at excellent examples of coins simply on the grounds that another example has been graded higher.

Again a perfect example of how difficult it is to see anything useful through a slab. It certainly doesn't stand out to me and my feeling is there are flat areas on the reverse (rims, tail, nose) where I'd expect more detail for an MSAnything.

But I've come to the conclusion a lot of coin collecting in the US is just completely different from over here. From recent threads on CCF I've gathered that some collectors would replace a coin because it's in the wrong sort of slab to match the others and that once slabbed with a decent grade, people start to get .. expectations.. about value.

I'd really hope nobody here would turn down a nice coin at a good price because it was graded by the 'wrong' TPGS. Not even the CGS enthusiasts!

[Peckris 579]

Is this another example of why we should be sceptical of American TPGs' grading of English coins? To my eyes this is massively over-graded at MS63, but would be more than happy to understand why it might be worthy of such an attribution if someone thinks it is!

The real bonus is the strict pricing applied in the US where a 61 is a non-coin and hence can be purchased cheaply. Number collectors will turn their noses up at excellent examples of coins simply on the grounds that another example has been graded higher.

Again a perfect example of how difficult it is to see anything useful through a slab. It certainly doesn't stand out to me and my feeling is there are flat areas on the reverse (rims, tail, nose) where I'd expect more detail for an MSAnything.

But I've come to the conclusion a lot of coin collecting in the US is just completely different from over here. From recent threads on CCF I've gathered that some collectors would replace a coin because it's in the wrong sort of slab to match the others and that once slabbed with a decent grade, people start to get .. expectations.. about value.

I'd really hope nobody here would turn down a nice coin at a good price because it was graded by the 'wrong' TPGS. Not even the CGS enthusiasts!

I'd agree 100%. It clearly suffers from the 'photo through a slab' thing, but has anyone noticed the scratch down the entire bust? There's some lovely blue lustre on the reverse, but it's a common date, and the fact there were 0 bids says it all really.

[bagerap 706]

More Churchill cobblers:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171047208805?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[Rob 3,152]

More Churchill cobblers:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171047208805?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

It would have helped if the RM hadn't changed the crown from a 5 shilling/25p denomination to £5. The listing says a £5 coin. Whether they realise or not, I don't know, but they are clearly expecting the buyer to think it's a £5 coin.

[bagerap 706]

They also expect the buyer to believe "Limited commemorative issue"

[Rob 3,152]

They also expect the buyer to believe "Limited commemorative issue"

It was, limited to 10m, and that's not the Isle of Man.

Edited June 2, 2013 by Rob

[Peckris 579]

More Churchill cobblers:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171047208805?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

It would have helped if the RM hadn't changed the crown from a 5 shilling/25p denomination to £5. The listing says a £5 coin. Whether they realise or not, I don't know, but they are clearly expecting the buyer to think it's a £5 coin.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the illustration crudely copied from a Coincraft ad? (The best of all possible worlds )

[TomGoodheart 400]

Well ... perhaps someone can find a use for those?

Coins into art

Stacey lee Webber

[Coinery 1,148]

Well ... perhaps someone can find a use for those?

Coins into art

Stacey lee Webber

Pretty cool, though I'm not sure how comfortable that sofa would be!

[Gary D 76]

Well ... perhaps someone can find a use for those?

Coins into art

Stacey lee Webber

Pretty cool, though I'm not sure how comfortable that sofa would be!

I just hope they went through all the coins first to pick out any rarities before they trashed them.

[Peckris 579]

Well ... perhaps someone can find a use for those?

Coins into art

Stacey lee Webber

There's definitely a few penny heads in this forum!

[Rob 3,152]

Well ... perhaps someone can find a use for those?

Coins into art

Stacey lee Webber

Pretty cool, though I'm not sure how comfortable that sofa would be!

I just hope they went through all the coins first to pick out any rarities before they trashed them.

I somehow think the world will not run dry of washers to utilise. The results are not unattractive.

I must admit to only giving the scrap pile a cursory check, mainly for the odd better quality coin. I'm certainly not going to check every washer for rare dates or varieties before they get consigned to the pot, and past experiences on ebay suggest people are reluctant to even pay a quid for 100 meaning they can't be bothered to search either. Saving the planet from un-necessary mining activity is the next best thing.

[Coinery 1,148]

Well ... perhaps someone can find a use for those?

Coins into art

Stacey lee Webber

Pretty cool, though I'm not sure how comfortable that sofa would be!

I just hope they went through all the coins first to pick out any rarities before they trashed them.

I somehow think the world will not run dry of washers to utilise. The results are not unattractive.

I must admit to only giving the scrap pile a cursory check, mainly for the odd better quality coin. I'm certainly not going to check every washer for rare dates or varieties before they get consigned to the pot, and past experiences on ebay suggest people are reluctant to even pay a quid for 100 meaning they can't be bothered to search either. Saving the planet from un-necessary mining activity is the next best thing.

You do make me smile, Rob! I'm just so, so, glad you don't take this whole thing too seriously! I couldn't take you seriously otherwise! :-)