Jump to content
British Coin Forum - Predecimal.com

50 Years of RotographicCoinpublications.com A Rotographic Imprint. Price guide reference book publishers since 1959. Lots of books on coins, banknotes and medals. Please visit and like Coin Publications on Facebook for offers and updates.

Coin Publications on Facebook

   Rotographic    

The current range of books. Click the image above to see them on Amazon (printed and Kindle format). More info on coinpublications.com

predecimal.comPredecimal.com. One of the most popular websites on British pre-decimal coins, with hundreds of coins for sale, advice for beginners and interesting information.

kuhli

Ebay's Worst Offerings

Recommended Posts

The wider date variants of OH pennies are scarce but not rare, fun to seek & find, but not worth that sort of premium in my view

Agreed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The wider date variants of OH pennies are scarce but not rare, fun to seek & find, but not worth that sort of premium in my view

Agreed.

Seconded. Also if you need to add drawings to show the variety then it can't be all that exciting to have to find either.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

In fairness to the seller it is scarce and i have never seen one in that good a grade.

Although yes optimistic is the right word :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is scarce, and I have not yet found one better than fine. I recently sorted a few kilos of Victorian pennies from my local auction, there were 29 1898 pennies, of which two were of this type, with the changed '8' font, and that approximates to what I've noted on the 'bay.

I actually rather like this as a variety, they do look quite different in the hand (under a strong glass, of course, my eyes aren't that good!).

Much better than date widths that vary fron die to die

Jerry

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There was meant to be a smiley at the end of my last post, before you get too incandescent!

Jerry⛏☠

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is scarce, and I have not yet found one better than fine. I recently sorted a few kilos of Victorian pennies from my local auction, there were 29 1898 pennies, of which two were of this type, with the changed '8' font, and that approximates to what I've noted on the 'bay.

I actually rather like this as a variety, they do look quite different in the hand (under a strong glass, of course, my eyes aren't that good!).

Much better than date widths that vary fron die to die

Jerry

The "normal" 8 over a bead (not listed by Gouby) appears to be scarcer

1898varieties-1.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

These were produced (this one poorly) in the Far East.

I would doubt the gold content.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What the hell is this..

Peel back for chocolate!!! ?

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What the hell is this..

Peel back for chocolate!!!

I would sooner have a chocholate one before that rang tang :D

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sovereigns were such a world wide standard...copies probably circulated as the real thing.

Of course Predecimal.com didn't exist B) and the weight was approx correct.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sovereigns were such a world wide standard...copies probably circulated as the real thing.

Of course Predecimal.com didn't exist B) and the weight was approx correct.

Yes, I've got a couple of Beirut Victorian gold pieces, 1887 £2 & £5. The most obvious indicator being the off centre die axis, though a deficit of 4 milling lines on the £5 also helps together with missing finer detail. The gold purity is rumoured to be 0.89-0.895, but I haven't had this checked.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, I've got a couple of Beirut Victorian gold pieces, 1887 £2 & £5. The most obvious indicator being the off centre die axis, though a deficit of 4 milling lines on the £5 also helps together with missing finer detail. The gold purity is rumoured to be 0.89-0.895, but I haven't had this checked.

How did you count the edge milling?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Maybe there is a gap?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, I've got a couple of Beirut Victorian gold pieces, 1887 £2 & £5. The most obvious indicator being the off centre die axis, though a deficit of 4 milling lines on the £5 also helps together with missing finer detail. The gold purity is rumoured to be 0.89-0.895, but I haven't had this checked.

How did you count the edge milling?

Used sellotape to ensure it didn't move and then marked off every 10

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, I've got a couple of Beirut Victorian gold pieces, 1887 £2 & £5. The most obvious indicator being the off centre die axis, though a deficit of 4 milling lines on the £5 also helps together with missing finer detail. The gold purity is rumoured to be 0.89-0.895, but I haven't had this checked.

How did you count the edge milling?

Used sellotape to ensure it didn't move and then marked off every 10

Sellotape on a coin???

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, I've got a couple of Beirut Victorian gold pieces, 1887 £2 & £5. The most obvious indicator being the off centre die axis, though a deficit of 4 milling lines on the £5 also helps together with missing finer detail. The gold purity is rumoured to be 0.89-0.895, but I haven't had this checked.

How did you count the edge milling?

Used sellotape to ensure it didn't move and then marked off every 10

Sellotape on a coin???

Well, it will never be worth more than bullion. It only touches the high points of the milling to provide friction and it was necessary to prove the point. Just looking at it and pronouncing a verdict to a seller is not good enough without providing some evidence. They just think you are trying to pull a fast one. I suppose I could have used a marker on the milling to count off every 10.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ouch, ouch, ouch. Nearly every coin this seller is listing has been taped over :(:wacko::angry:

Lucky most of them are just washers!

Edited by Nordle11
Forgot the link
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 hours ago, Geordie582 said:

Meh.  It's not even a good enough copy for it to be an Ashmore.  And yet, people have bid ...  :unsure:

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I see there are more appearing on fleabay. Next they'll be taking a rasp to the coins to simulate plough damage!:(B)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Another offering from Shelly; 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1874H-QUEEN-VICTORIA-PENNY-FREENAN-69-OBV-6-REV-I-R16-RARER-THEN-GOLD-EF-/301840907471?hash=item46471ebccf:g:RWoAAOSwa-dWi-3V

not F69 sadly; in fact if you look at the other listings, many are self-slabbed with gross over-grading , several mis-identified and all over-priced. Not a good advertisment.

Jerry

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I took a punt on some coins from her, all of them had been cleaned and so inevitably returned, she did refund me in full including postage both ways but I think giving her a wide berth is wise. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×