Spink 2007

[Emperor Oli 0]

Just seen a picture of the cover of this year's on eBay. I think it's quite good!

Don't know if anyone has got it this year...any big developments?

[coin watch 1]

The big change for this year is that all the plates are in colour and of course the annual price rises. I looked at it at Spinks just before christmas and it is a lot better in colour, but must admit I did not purchase one.

Oh yes, and this price has changed at £25.

[Peter 615]

I pre ordered and got it before Xmas.

My previous edition was 2004 and most likely my next edition will be 2010.

On other forums you will see threads of Spink 2007 errors.

I'll live with it but its far from my numismatic bible.

BTW a nice coin on the front cover....nearly as nice as mine.

[Emperor Oli 0]

On other forums you will see threads of Spink 2007 errors.

I didn't think there were any other dedicated British coin forums! Have I been living under a stone?

[Hussulo 6]

On other forums you will see threads of Spink 2007 errors.

I didn't think there were any other dedicated British coin forums! Have I been living under a stone?

Colin Cooke website has a forum:

http://www.colincooke.com/forum.html

Although I wouldn't say it was as interactive as this one.

[Emperor Oli 0]

On other forums you will see threads of Spink 2007 errors.

I didn't think there were any other dedicated British coin forums! Have I been living under a stone?

Colin Cooke website has a forum:

http://www.colincooke.com/forum.html

Although I wouldn't say it was as interactive as this one.

I recall Cooke's was always a bit slow. Very good content when posted, just took a bit long to percolate through.

Edit: Just looked at it now and it seems to be quite busy nowadays!

[josie 8]

Is there any dealers in UK that others can order?

Also about cooke book on bronzed and copper.

and any dealer still selling peck book.

[Chingford 166]

Is there any dealers in UK that others can order?

Also about cooke book on bronzed and copper.

and any dealer still selling peck book.

Josie

Try the following link, good site for Numastic literature

http://www.galata.co.uk

John

[RLC35 288]

Is there any dealers in UK that others can order?

Also about cooke book on bronzed and copper.

and any dealer still selling peck book.

Josie, There are two copies of the Peck book on www.abebooks.com. One is $192.00 USD and the other is $250.00 USD.

Bob C.

[Gary D 76]

Is there any dealers in UK that others can order?

Also about cooke book on bronzed and copper.

and any dealer still selling peck book.

Josie, There are two copies of the Peck book on www.abebooks.com. One is $192.00 USD and the other is $250.00 USD.

Bob C.

Just my opinion, but I borrowed a copy of Peck from my local library and found it disappointing. It had mostly been included in Freemans, at least the bits I was interested in. It's no longer on my want list.

[Chris Perkins 228]

For bronze Freeman is the book, but for copper collectors you can't be without a Peck.

[josie 8]

Thank you to all.

Im trying to have some book for bronzed for other have a bit of information or data that is not listed to other book.

so peck book is most on 1860 downwards while freeman goes upto 1983.that is a big help for Im 1900 up.

IM not to online so I order by mail while other site dont accept email or block for the protection of thier computer thank you for the list of site.

And there is always this forum that other expert have a comprehensive notes and collection of thier own but owning a book have some good points also browsing and posting from this forum for me two different things on its own.

[Peter 615]

Life without my Peck....not a cover to cover read but I use it so often.

Whereas Freeman....I still get it from the library...occasionally...although I'm tempted by the re issue at £35.

[Guest Stephen S]

I have bought a copy and what a complete disappointment!

The book was delayed for months and I for one was hoping for something special - it is not!

From my viewpoint, I should first criticise earlier sovereigns, where nothing appears to have changed, many being priced at below bullion level!

The 1866/5 is still quoted as only coming from die 17 which is untrue; the 1890S first bust is still omitted but Spink bought one; the 1839 is about as rare as the 1841 but you would never guess so from Spink, only from eBay.

High quality shieldbacks are practically impossible to find, whatever the date and to suggest that they are worth £400 is completely laughable.

Then there is the ludicrously random pricing of coin varieities among the sovereigns. For example the 1889S first bust is listed as rare but these are often seen, whereas the 1862 Roman I, a new variety, is priced at £600, when only one has been found to date and Spink can't find one. I guess that Spink are looking to make a killing on that one - they offered £200 to the owner of that coin!

The pictures of the various types of bunhead pennies have been omitted but not the descriptions - pathetic!

The 1951 crown with error inscription has been omitted although it was shown to Spink.

The market trends section has been omitted, either because Spink could not be bothered to include it or because it did not want to alert the less experienced collectors to what is really happening out there.

This is more than ever a book about how little Spink would like to pay you for your rare coins and in no way a reflection of the true value of the coins - eBay and real auctions are the better guide.

What I will say is that anyone who has the 2006 edition should stick to that and not bother buying the latest edition.

[Chris Perkins 228]

Possively scathing!

I have heard other negative things about the new Spink but you have summed up some important ones. I hope you don't do a review for my book!

To defend Spink a little, they did have a staff change probably right at the wrong moment (due to the extra effort involved for the colour).

I too have noticed lots of £75 priced VF early Victoria sovereigns, which with gold at about £78 per bullion coin, that is plainly not accurate!

I had a 1951 Error crown in the past, so that does indeed exist.

I spoke to Gouby last year and I think he considered the bun obverses too small and not able to do the various varieties justice, so that might be why they were removed altogher, even though it does seem a strange thing to do.

[coin watch 1]

I had a another look at it again the other day while in WHSmith, and apart from the previous mentioned price mistakes, I was amazed at the amount of mistakes with the coin pictures.

I only studied the Charles I section but that alone had a number of wrong pictures for references and also double printing the same coin under different reference.

I think that Spink have this year put a lot of thought into the colour aspect of the book and not concentrated much on checking those mistakes.

Ofter seeing it on two different occations I have decided not to purchase this year, hopfully 2008 will have all the corrections!

[ken46 0]

I have bought a copy and what a complete disappointment!

The book was delayed for months and I for one was hoping for something special - it is not!

From my viewpoint, I should first criticise earlier sovereigns, where nothing appears to have changed, many being priced at below bullion level!

The 1866/5 is still quoted as only coming from die 17 which is untrue; the 1890S first bust is still omitted but Spink bought one; the 1839 is about as rare as the 1841 but you would never guess so from Spink, only from eBay.

High quality shieldbacks are practically impossible to find, whatever the date and to suggest that they are worth £400 is completely laughable.

Then there is the ludicrously random pricing of coin varieities among the sovereigns. For example the 1889S first bust is listed as rare but these are often seen, whereas the 1862 Roman I, a new variety, is priced at £600, when only one has been found to date and Spink can't find one. I guess that Spink are looking to make a killing on that one - they offered £200 to the owner of that coin!

The pictures of the various types of bunhead pennies have been omitted but not the descriptions - pathetic!

The 1951 crown with error inscription has been omitted although it was shown to Spink.

The market trends section has been omitted, either because Spink could not be bothered to include it or because it did not want to alert the less experienced collectors to what is really happening out there.

This is more than ever a book about how little Spink would like to pay you for your rare coins and in no way a reflection of the true value of the coins - eBay and real auctions are the better guide.

What I will say is that anyone who has the 2006 edition should stick to that and not bother buying the latest edition.

From your comments on sovereigns I am led to believe you are a sovereign collector? Do you collect

the die numbers as well?

[Guest Guest]

I have bought a copy and what a complete disappointment!

The book was delayed for months and I for one was hoping for something special - it is not!

From my viewpoint, I should first criticise earlier sovereigns, where nothing appears to have changed, many being priced at below bullion level!

The 1866/5 is still quoted as only coming from die 17 which is untrue; the 1890S first bust is still omitted but Spink bought one; the 1839 is about as rare as the 1841 but you would never guess so from Spink, only from eBay.

High quality shieldbacks are practically impossible to find, whatever the date and to suggest that they are worth £400 is completely laughable.

Then there is the ludicrously random pricing of coin varieities among the sovereigns. For example the 1889S first bust is listed as rare but these are often seen, whereas the 1862 Roman I, a new variety, is priced at £600, when only one has been found to date and Spink can't find one. I guess that Spink are looking to make a killing on that one - they offered £200 to the owner of that coin!

The pictures of the various types of bunhead pennies have been omitted but not the descriptions - pathetic!

The 1951 crown with error inscription has been omitted although it was shown to Spink.

The market trends section has been omitted, either because Spink could not be bothered to include it or because it did not want to alert the less experienced collectors to what is really happening out there.

This is more than ever a book about how little Spink would like to pay you for your rare coins and in no way a reflection of the true value of the coins - eBay and real auctions are the better guide.

What I will say is that anyone who has the 2006 edition should stick to that and not bother buying the latest edition.

From your comments on sovereigns I am led to believe you are a sovereign collector? Do you collect

the die numbers as well?

I tend to collect varieties, specialising in sovereigns. I am not looking to collect die numbers - not least because it makes an expensive hobby a bit of a drudge!

[ken46 0]

I do collect sovereigns and die numbers as well. If you wish drop me a note and we will compare

notes.

ken@scholarcraft.com

[Guest E. Dawson]

And I can attest to Ken being an absolute expert and specialist!

As to the 1951 edge errors (and the same can be said for the 1953 crowns as well), there are numerous combinations of errors present and some very dramatic with others less so. And so while I agree with the criticisms rendered I would think Spink not obliged to report and list every error and to just keep those posted that are of more significance.