need help with ID and values

[crs 0]

I have recently acquired some British coins, if anyone could help with ID and values for insurance?

I have seen this online descibed as a prototype coin, I'm not sure what that means?

also

I can not see a similar coin listed in Spinks that has the trunk adorned?

[Peter 615]

The Anne farthing does not look right.There are so many forgeries .

However even copies are sought after and Ebay is full of gullible mugs.

[Teg 0]

Peter is correct, the first coin is a forgery of a queen Anne farthing. The Anne farthing was never released for circulation - so all the genuine ones are patterns - or prototypes.

Cast forgeries like this never look as sharp as properly struck coins. There is a market for them, the genuine are very expensive, so some people are happy with a fake to "fill the hole".

When Colin Cooke was alive he used to buy fakes to remove them from the market - he had over a 100.

One of his party tricks was to put a genuine Queen Anne farthing in with the fakes. He would then tell visitors that they could have the genuine coin IF they could identify which one it was.!

Second coin is a normal George IIII farthing.

Values

Queen Anne (assuming I am correct that it is a forgery) £20 or so.

George IIII farthing, £4 -£5.

Teg