Jump to content
British Coin Forum - Predecimal.com

50 Years of RotographicCoinpublications.com A Rotographic Imprint. Price guide reference book publishers since 1959. Lots of books on coins, banknotes and medals. Please visit and like Coin Publications on Facebook for offers and updates.

Coin Publications on Facebook

   Rotographic    

The current range of books. Click the image above to see them on Amazon (printed and Kindle format). More info on coinpublications.com

predecimal.comPredecimal.com. One of the most popular websites on British pre-decimal coins, with hundreds of coins for sale, advice for beginners and interesting information.

Sign in to follow this  
PINMAN

Miss struck 1834 William IIII Penny

Recommended Posts

Will be receiving the following 1834 miss struck William IIII Penny,within the next few days.

OBVERSE.jpg

REVERSE.jpg

My only worry,is the price tag.Just over £113 with postage.Would you truthfully pay such a sum for this particular coin ?.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Will be receiving the following 1834 miss struck William IIII Penny,within the next few days.

OBVERSE.jpg

REVERSE.jpg

My only worry,is the price tag.Just over £113 with postage.Would you truthfully pay such a sum for this particular coin ?.

For what its worth, I personally wouldn't. Sure its a spectacular misstrike, but the coin itself is fair at best, maybe not even that. To me the coin doesn't have eye-appeal, and for that much money I would expect to find something much nicer.

However, if misstrikes turn you on, then its unlikely you will find another one like this, and it may be worth it to you. Only you can say!

DaveG38

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I agree with Dave.

I too collect error coins and they are hard to value. It is a dramatic error and if you like the coin that's what counts. I personally feel it is a little high but, then again you may not find another like it again.

Regards,

Hus

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The first thought that i personally had,when i came across this particular coin,was the fact that it was quite an amazing misstrike.Sure,i've occasionally seen other fairly impressive misstrikes too,but nothing quite as spectacular as this.Obviously i was aware of the coin's low grade state,but i didn't let that didn't discourage me enough, to prevent me from placing a bid on it,since the opportunity to own something simular to this,may never have come my way again.Perhaps this isn't the case,since misstrikes,is an area that i have very little knowledge about.

The thing that i can't get over,is the fact that this particular coin,has obviously been in circulation for quite an excessive time......you'd have thought that it would've ended up in some collectors hands,well before this was possible (any explanations ?).

Thanks for the response,it is very much appreciated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The first thought that i personally had,when i came across this particular coin,was the fact that it was quite an amazing misstrike.Sure,i've occasionally seen other fairly impressive misstrikes too,but nothing quite as spectacular as this.Obviously i was aware of the coin's low grade state,but i didn't let that didn't discourage me enough, to prevent me from placing a bid on it,since the opportunity to own something simular to this,may never have come my way again.Perhaps this isn't the case,since misstrikes,is an area that i have very little knowledge about.

The thing that i can't get over,is the fact that this particular coin,has obviously been in circulation for quite an excessive time......you'd have thought that it would've ended up in some collectors hands,well before this was possible (any explanations ?).

Thanks for the response,it is very much appreciated.

Personally, I would have paid a little less, but I was the underbidder, an Interesting piece

What intrigued me was, that although William bust and Britainniars shield are overstruck, there is no rim line or traces of the legend on either side, as part of the overstrike.

If the full strike ocurred first, I would have expected to see traces of the rim and legend as well.

If the planchet was partially struck, before the full strike, then the chin of the overstrike surely would be obscured or just a trace, and the trident would be through Britainniars arm.

I would be interested in hearing more about the coin and seeing some clearer images once you have it.

John

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi John.Some very interesting thoughts there,my friend.I personally,would imagine that the semi strike ocurred first,and that's the reason why there's no traces of the rim etc (full strike wipes out any evidence of that,perhaps ?)...just a guess though obviously.

I'm certainly no David Bailey,when it comes to Photography,but i'll sure give it my best shot,to improve apon what's currently available.

I'll probably have to let the pics do 99.9% of the talking,since this is an area,that i've not really encountered before now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well,after countless attempts at trying to supply better quality pics of this particular coin,i finally give up.Either my little Nikon Coolpix 4600 digital camera just isn't up to close work,or my Photography skills,are far worse than i thought.I've tried stacks of different ideas,and nothing seems to work,or at least not as good as what's already available.The only other idea which springs to mind,is to take the thing outside on a clear bright day,and see if i have any joy then.Until then,please except my apologies.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Well,after countless attempts at trying to supply better quality pics of this particular coin,i finally give up.Either my little Nikon Coolpix 4600 digital camera just isn't up to close work,or my Photography skills,are far worse than i thought.I've tried stacks of different ideas,and nothing seems to work,or at least not as good as what's already available.The only other idea which springs to mind,is to take the thing outside on a clear bright day,and see if i have any joy then.Until then,please except my apologies.

Do you have a scanner linked to your pc? sometimes scanners produce clear detailed pictures, although they tend to loose the luster of the coin and can make them appear a bit flat.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Do you have a scanner linked to your pc? sometimes scanners produce clear detailed pictures, although they tend to loose the luster of the coin and can make them appear a bit flat.

I'm afraid that i don't possess a scanner,at this moment in time.As already mentioned,i believe my only hope now,is to have another attempt outside.Whilst trying to achieve something half decent indoors,i found that leaving the flash on,would produce real bad flash reflections,off of the coin(even when taken at an angle(not directly overhead)),and turning it off,resulted in images,that were way too dark to do anything with,even though i attempted to improve them via a couple of paint programs.I'll see what results i get,when i retry in broad daylight.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looks like it's time for a camera upgrade.Afer around 20-25 snaps,i still hadn't managed to improve anything over the day before's efforts.If fact the pic below,was the best that i'd come up with,and it's still far from being any good,as you can see.

Coin%20example.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Still far from perfect,but here's some pics,that are certainly better than my last attempts.

f1.jpg

f2.jpg

And the reverse

b1.jpg

b2.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×