damned hammered coinage

[Stechlin]

I don’t have any idea, what penny that is. The only things, I could work out: It’s a penny of the short cross coinage, the obverse legend is HENRICUS REX and the coin was minted in London (LUND). Not very difficult, I know, but this is the end of my wisdom. I recognized that the sceptre is quite vertical and the bust of the ruler has an interesting shaped beard. I can’t identify the moneyer, seems to start with a “B†or a “Râ€. So once again I would be grateful for every hint.

Holger

[Stechlin]

I don’t have any idea, what penny that is. The only things, I could work out: It’s a penny of the short cross coinage, the obverse legend is HENRICUS REX and the coin was minted in London (LUND). Not very difficult, I know, but this is the end of my wisdom. I recognized that the sceptre is quite vertical and the bust of the ruler has an interesting shaped beard. I can’t identify the moneyer, seems to start with a “B†or a “Râ€. So once again I would be grateful for every hint.

Holger

Picture of the reverse.

[Geordie582]

I must admit the portrait does not fit readily into catalogued coins, but I'll stick my neck out and guess it's a version of John Class 5, but most of that class have only Two curls per side.

Oh! Yes! and the moneyer is ABEL ON LVND (Abel of London)

[scottishmoney]

IMO I must concur that it is Johnny masquerading as Hank. Poor miserous bloke felt unsure enough of himself, he didna want his moniker on his coinage, save for Ireland.

[Stechlin]

I must admit the portrait does not fit readily into catalogued coins, but I'll stick my neck out and guess it's a version of John Class 5, but most of that class have only Two curls per side.

Oh! Yes! and the moneyer is ABEL ON LVND (Abel of London)

Hi Geordie,

Thanks a lot, I'm very grateful. For me as a starter its makes a big difference, not to know, what class a penny is or even not to know, what ruler! What would you think about Spink 1351? Regular S, cross pattee and, as far as I can see (without experience at all), there are only two curls per side. But I'm sure, you thought about that, and as a German I don't know, what is meant with the word "circular" in the Spink description. - Without your hint I would never thought about ABEL ON LUND as the moneyer, thanks especially for that

[Geordie582]

I suppose Class 5b fits the bill more than the other classes, though the lack of pellets in the curls and the vertical sceptre are differences. Not to worry, though as there are a multitude of minor variations in all Classes and cause much argument between numismatists. Plus the fact that many moneyers placed 'secret' marks on coins, an extra pellet here or the lack of some part of the design there. It's the reason many numismatists choose English Hammered!

Oh! Yes! The term 'circular' just means shaped like an 'O'

[HistoricCoinage]

It's the reason many numismatists choose English Hammered!

Gotta love hammereds!