Was this a good buy?

[Edward 0]

Oli, I had no idea about the variations on the 1953 1/4d. You are a wizard. Is there some Farthing Bible you can refer me to?

[Chris Perkins 228]

All the 1953 varieties (and many others) are listed in the Collectors Coins GB 2004!

Oh what a wonderful book that is.

[Edward 0]

Ok, so I've been keeping my nose in my Spink too much! You know I have both the 1820-date and the Geo III.

[Chris Perkins 228]

Ah yes, so you do. Silly me, for some reason I thought I just sold you the GIII.

[Master Jmd 85]

No it's not, they are both beaded. I'm right and you will also find Mr. Cooke agrees. And what do you mean beaded on the date side and toothed on the farthing side? They are both the same "side" or reverse

oops, i meant; toothed on the reverse, beaded on the obverse...

[william 0]

No it's not, they are both beaded.  I'm right and you will also find Mr. Cooke agrees.  And what do you mean beaded on the date side and toothed on the farthing side?  They are both the same "side" or reverse 

oops, i meant; toothed on the reverse, beaded on the obverse...

Are you absolutely sure that it is toothed on the recerse and beaded on the obverse, have another look at those pics I posted...

[Master Jmd 85]

Are you absolutely sure that it is toothed on the recerse and beaded on the obverse, have another look at those pics I posted...

i am positive...

sorry about the picture, it is hard to see, but this is it:

[william 0]

Looks beaded to me, but I can't make it out very well. I am comparing it to my 1955 farthing, and the borders are both beaded on mine!

[Emperor Oli 0]

MJMD, unless you have some rare misstrike, you are wrong. They have only beaded reverses.

Oli, I had no idea about the variations on the 1953 1/4d. You are a wizard. Is there some Farthing Bible you can refer me to?

Lol, no. I've just started to specialise in Farthings and am hoping (probably in vain!) to spot some new varieties so i've just brushed up on the existing ones.

[Half Penny Jon 0]

Which variety is it Master JMD?

[Master Jmd 85]

MJMD, unless you have some rare misstrike, you are wrong. They have only beaded reverses.

it must be a rare mistrike then

[Emperor Oli 0]

Just post some scans and then we will know because from those blurry pics, it looked like beading anyway

[Master Jmd 85]

this is a better pic:

[Emperor Oli 0]

Hmmm that is an oddity. If one looks at the pictures in Spink a bit closer, the reverse does actually match yours and it classes it as beading, not toothing.

[Master Jmd 85]

Hmmm that is an oddity. If one looks at the pictures in Spink a bit closer, the reverse does actually match yours and it classes it as beading, not toothing.

so is it 'rare'?

[Emperor Oli 0]

Well apparently there arew six varieties listed in Collector's Coins 2004. If someone could scan the page (and host it on another site to save bandwidth!) then we will see if MJMD's is a variety. If not, the combos I listed above make yours quite rare I think.

[Master Jmd 85]

ok, whilst we wait, could you tell me if there are different types of 1954, 1955 and/or 1956 farthings?

[Half Penny Jon 0]

I don't think there are. However, you will have to ask expert Oli!

[Emperor Oli 0]

As far as I know, there are no other varieties for QEII.

There are, however, varieties for KGV and KEVIII.

There are two varieties for George. The first, Obverse 1 has the "TT" in "BRITT" on the obverse close together. Obverse 2 has them, obviously, wider apart.

The Edward ones are the 1902 specimens which are identified by the quality of the striking. Type A, the one commonly held to be first minted, has a weakly struck area on the breastplate of Britannia on the reverse, with little or no detail. These only crop up in the higher grades however. Type B is the common issue. And of course there are the different tides on KEVII:

Low Tide : 1903

High Tide : 1902, 1904-10

[william 0]

I don't think Master JMDs one is a rarity, my 1955 one looks just the same...

[Master Jmd 85]

I don't think Master JMDs one is a rarity, my 1955 one looks just the same...

my 1955 is beaded on both sides, and oli has said that there are no other varieties of QEII farthings...

[william 0]

I don't think Master JMDs one is a rarity, my 1955 one looks just the same...

my 1955 is beaded on both sides, and oli has said that there are no other varieties of QEII farthings...

Your 1953 is beaded as well, I'm just saying that it doesn't sound rare, as it looks identical to my 1955

[Master Jmd 85]

Your 1953 is beaded as well, I'm just saying that it doesn't sound rare, as it looks identical to my 1955

my 1953 farthing is beaded on the obverse and toothed on the reverce, not beaded on both sides...

[william 0]

If one looks at the pictures in Spink a bit closer, the reverse does actually match yours and it classes it as beading, not toothing.

Oh yes it is!

[Emperor Oli 0]

I've just pulled out my trays of late farthings and they are toothed on the reverse however both Spink and other sites class it as beading Something is awry here!