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It's just worth a few quid, I don't think there are any mega rare dates (at least not for low grade examples). Post a link to this comparison coin, I can find it from the general link.

I wouldn't call this coin Fine either, but It's in far worst condition then mine: South African 2 - 1/2 SHILLINGS

Estimate for that coin as you see 500 - 750 £ and it was realized: 880 £

There is my coin to compare:

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Hi Panterex,

Its actually in a better condition then yours. The auction pictures aren't great and the coin has patchy toning which hides some of the underlying detail. If you take the hair and the eyebrow for example, you can see a lot more detail in the auction coin.

The colour of your coin appears to be a bit grey and it has possibly been cleaned, it could be the scan though.

I agree that Zar coins are very collectable and some do command high values, but when comparing values you need to compare the sale of coins with the same dates as the value of a coin changes depending on what date it was minted and how many have survived etc.

Regards,

Hus

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Yes despite the patchy tone that coin in the linked auction has an awful lot more eye appear and very little wear compared to yours. You'll get used to knowing what to look for but it can take time and it's perfectly normal for beginners to overgrade coins simply because they have yet to see (or even better, to hold) a better one.

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13.gif So let's make it clear to me, cos I'm really pissed off of my self.

Which coin has more value / grade? One with the original color, but with obvious wear, or one with a BAD colour and with a minimum wear?

BTW, I didn't clean my coin... I found it as it is, well technically I did clean it but just under the tap, I mean just to wash down all the dirt an sand, I didn't use any brushes or soap / chemicals either if you know what I mean; or does it count as cleaning as well? 52.gif

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13.gif So let's make it clear to me, cos I'm really pissed off of my self.

Which coin has more value / grade? One with the original color, but with obvious wear, or one with a BAD colour and with a minimum wear?

BTW, I didn't clean my coin... I found it as it is, well technically I did clean it but just under the tap, I mean just to wash down all the dirt an sand, I didn't use any brushes or soap / chemicals either if you know what I mean; or does it count as cleaning as well? 52.gif

The one with attractive patchy toning and little wear is worth more than yours.

Just rinsing a coin under the tap does not count as cleaning, just make sure to dry the coin if it's copper etc...

Cleaning is using chemicals or something like a coarse brush to get dirt off.

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A bad tone can affect the value of a higher grade coin. Certainly if 2 coins were EF and were identical apart from one being unattractive then the one with the better even toning would attract more buyers and would probably sell for more. Where low grade coins are concerned (i.e less than Fine) the toning is usually of little importance. Coins in a natural aged state (even with odd toning) with very little wear are always the most popular. The level of wear though always has a far greater affect on value than the toning.

You're lucky to have found a nice large sterling silver coin regardless of its level of wear. I've never found anything made out of a non base metal!

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Hi Hus!

I've got another hopeless find for ya!11.gif26.gif

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On the very bottom of it you can hardly see 4 symbols... Maybe you can read them - I can't :(

I don't think there is any point to post the picture of the other side, cos I can't see anything at all...

In any case, thanks for your time ;)

Regards,

Panterex

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I have just decided to post the other side of that coin - just in case you have superman eyes (as I already suspect, as you were able to identify 'George III')!!!

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I'm really sorry about flooding, but I can't use the edit function....I meant to ask you what do you think it is made of, I think it looks like copper but I found it while metal detecting and copper usually goes green in damp conditions but this coin was as is seen above (minus a few bits of bog turf!)

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Sorry its got me beat! :)

I can see what seems to be a bit of a legend. Perhaps a II or III. I've circled it in red, but apart from that I can't see any detail that would help attribute it.

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Do you have any ideas what It's made of? :huh:

I don't believe It's a copper one, cos there was no sign of oxidation :o

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No worries, Hus! At least you've tried!

I don't blame you - The picture is not the best way to identify the coin at this state.

Do you have any ideas what It's made of?

I don't believe It's a copper one, cos there is no sign of oxidation! So what it is then? Doesn't look like a gold to me either... <_<

I'm lost :P

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Hooray!!! clapping.gif

Hus I did it!!!

Look at this here:

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I saw those funny letters, but I couldn't place them first! It looked so familiar to me!

Then I thought, sh*t, if it looks familiar, so I've must saw this coin before! So I checked my Irish coin collection and there you go!

I'm just so sick, that the date unreadable... what if this 1931, 1940 or worse, 1938? No, I'm actually happy, that I can't see the date, cos I would be more sick, If this coin is one of "those" and in the very bad state when It's worth nothing...

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