Upcoming Colin Cooke Sale?

[Coppers 58]

Did anyone notice the announcement appearing in the latest issue of Coins Magazine of the impending sale of the Crocker Collection of pennies described as "a comprehensive collection of pennies from 1860-1953 featuring many of the rare Freeman and Satin varieties" as well as the Douglas Collection of farthings described as "a small collection of farthings featuring some of the rarest and highest quality patterns and proofs"?

[wybrit 2]

I didn't hear about this so thanks for posting. I'm looking forward to seeing what farthings will be offered.

[1949threepence 3,367]

I haven't heard about it, but it sounds very interesting.

You'd have to be quick off the mark to pick up any of the really good stuff, though.

[Colin G. 147]

I haven't heard about it, but it sounds very interesting.

You'd have to be quick off the mark to pick up any of the really good stuff, though.

They would probably auction it through their site like they have done in the past

[Coppers 58]

I believe that it will be an auction. Insofar as what farthings are being offered, the announcement featured photos of a Cromwell farthing, a lustrous Anne farthing, what at first I took to be an 1839 silver farthing (but upon closer inspection looks more like an 1837 -- perhaps someone with better eyesight can help me out here) and one of the great rarities of the series Neil's 1864 copper farthing.

[VickySilver 830]

Should be interesting, I would hate to even be thinking about going for that 1864 copper!

I think this will be one of the "Chinese water torture" auctions that have the potential to be interminable. Good for the seller and the buyer has plenty of time to get his or her coin.

It will be interesting to see how these auctions turn out as there may some battles over some of these bits with many collectors (including me) of coins in the penny and farthing series.

[Peckris 579]

I think this will be one of the "Chinese water torture" auctions that have the potential to be interminable. Good for the seller and the buyer has plenty of time to get his or her coin.

What on earth is one of those?

[Chingford 166]

I think this will be one of the "Chinese water torture" auctions that have the potential to be interminable. Good for the seller and the buyer has plenty of time to get his or her coin.

What on earth is one of those?

With their auctions they notify all bidders as the bids are placed, giving them the opportunity to increase the bid or withdraw, selling to the last person standing, some items take days to conclude.

[Coppers 58]

I think this will be one of the "Chinese water torture" auctions that have the potential to be interminable. Good for the seller and the buyer has plenty of time to get his or her coin.

What on earth is one of those?

With their auctions they notify all bidders as the bids are placed, giving them the opportunity to increase the bid or withdraw, selling to the last person standing, some items take days to conclude.

If you are lucky the farthings you are bidding on are not among those which take 'days to conclude'. VickySilver's description of this as 'Chinese water torture' is certainly apt.

[Coppers 58]

Sale is now online. Bidding begins on Thursday.

The Crocker and Douglas Collections

[scott 144]

some nice coins... hope he keeps the pictures up.. its a good referance

[Coppers 58]

The recent Colin Cooke sales with photos are still accessible online under 'Collections'. Here is a link to them.

CC Collections

[1949threepence 3,367]

Sale is now online. Bidding begins on Thursday.

The Crocker and Douglas Collections

Some superb 1860 and 1861 examples in the Crocker collection.

[Peter 615]

I received my catalogue today.

The 1d's are too specialised for my collection (I might even have rare varieties and not know it....there's a task for those long winter nights) How lot 5 ever got ID'd beggars belief....it would of gone straight in my junk tin......and the 1/4d's aren't currency although the Liz Peck 741 is gorgeous (estimate £2k to £2.4k).

Also I don't remember a 15% buyers premium on the Cooke collection of farthings.

[scott 144]

yea how did that one get identfied... i love the 0 on lot 5 though

using those pennys to identify mine...

[davidrj 194]

yea how did that one get identfied... i love the 0 on lot 5 though

using those pennys to identify mine...

and who would have looked twice at lot#142 !!!! must be the ugliest E8 penny ever, looks like fire damage

[scott 144]

yea i know... i really need to find out what these dye numbers are 1*? whats 1*?

what is making the 1913 £2?

i thought all types were about the same

Edited September 17, 2009 by scott

[Peckris 579]

Yes, I'm totally stumped by Lot 5 - you can easily see it's a beaded reverse, but the obverse? And an estimate of over £200?? Interestingly, there are no bids on it yet.

Scott - the 1913s are like the 1953 farthing, scarce if muled. So 1+B and 2+A are pretty scarce compared with 1+A and 2+B. Freeman rates the 1+B as N, and 2+A as C, but that's compared with C10 and C13! So surviving exmples of the mules will be pretty scarce.

[Coppers 58]

yea how did that one get identfied... i love the 0 on lot 5 though

using those pennys to identify mine...

and who would have looked twice at lot#142 !!!! must be the ugliest E8 penny ever, looks like fire damage

Not a pretty penny, but someone must have looked twice as it already has a bid.

[scott 144]

so whats the differance? 174-7 are valued the same, whats this one?

[Peckris 579]

so whats the differance? 174-7 are valued the same, whats this one?

They're not scott - see my reply above. F175 and F176 are the scarce mules (not rare, but much scarcer than F174 and F177).

[VickySilver 830]

What do readers think of the bidding STARTING at low estimate? It is therefore de facto reserve at that price - I might even prefer an unannounced reserve and see where the bidding takes the prices.

[scott 144]

perhaps.. there are some nice pieces there, if i know what was so rare about that 1913.... but yea lower starting usualy gets the ball rolling easier anyway

[Peckris 579]

One of the bidders seems to be under the impression that the 'lower estimate' is the same thing as a 'minimum bid' (All the items where there is only one bidder, are exactly the lower estimate!)

Or perhaps it's a crafty ploy? After all, all unbid items are apparently to be sold at their lower estimates, so bidding that would effectively 'reserve' the coin if it's not contested.

[Peckris 579]

perhaps.. there are some nice pieces there, if i know what was so rare about that 1913.... but yea lower starting usualy gets the ball rolling easier anyway

Scott - you have a bee in your bonnet about that 1913! But it's only estimated £2 - £4 so it can't be that rare. I would class it Scarce, no more, just like a 1953 1+B farthing.