1823 coin, what denomination?

[rolling]

Does anyone know what denomination this coin is please?? Also, is it fake?

[Rob]

Does anyone know what denomination this coin is please?? Also, is it fake?

It isn't a coin. It may be toy money or a gaming token. If intended to be a forgery then presumably it would be for a crown or higher denomination depending on size. However, neither the bust nor the reverse are remotely like any of the official designs, and so by extension is unlikely to be a genuine forgery - if that isn't a contradiction in terms.

Edited November 12, 2009 by Rob

[rolling]

It is the same size as a £2.00 coin of that year, weighs roughly 7grams. Definate fake?

[Rob]

It is the same size as a £2.00 coin of that year, weighs roughly 7grams. Definate fake?

I don't think it is a fake because the workmanship is quite competent. I think it is a token or medallet of some kind - perhaps someone else on the forum knows about these things.

Just because it is the same size as a £2 doesn't mean that it was intended to pass as one.

[Flash]

Hi - It's a copy of some description as mentioned. I've come across copies of most denominations with somewhat stylised features. Some are obviously designed as pendant with attached loops, others used as ornament. As to who made them and what the definitive purposes were I'd love to know however it's not a true forgery as these, which can be found in base metal with any silvering or gilding long since worn off, are generally extremely good copies.

[Chingford]

Hi - It's a copy of some description as mentioned. I've come across copies of most denominations with somewhat stylised features. Some are obviously designed as pendant with attached loops, others used as ornament. As to who made them and what the definitive purposes were I'd love to know however it's not a true forgery as these, which can be found in base metal with any silvering or gilding long since worn off, are generally extremely good copies.

It is a Two Sovereign watch fob piece; Rodgers 1460-1465. doesn't give any details of the manufacturer

[rolling]

It is the same size as a £2.00 coin of that year, weighs roughly 7grams. Definate fake?

I don't think it is a fake because the workmanship is quite competent. I think it is a token or medallet of some kind - perhaps someone else on the forum knows about these things.

Just because it is the same size as a £2 doesn't mean that it was intended to pass as one.

I only compared the size so that you would have a rough idea of how big it was. Thank you for your help

[rolling]

Hi - It's a copy of some description as mentioned. I've come across copies of most denominations with somewhat stylised features. Some are obviously designed as pendant with attached loops, others used as ornament. As to who made them and what the definitive purposes were I'd love to know however it's not a true forgery as these, which can be found in base metal with any silvering or gilding long since worn off, are generally extremely good copies.

It is a Two Sovereign watch fob piece; Rodgers 1460-1465. doesn't give any details of the manufacturer

Thank you, thats interesting to know that. I'm going to look it up now that I know what it is.

[Chingford]

It is a Two Sovereign watch fob piece; Rodgers 1460-1465. doesn't give any details of the manufacturer