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Help please with this coin / medallion of French origin?

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Would appreciate some help with this coin or medallion please.

I think (by the French wording) it is of French origin.

Is this a coin / medallion or peice of junk?

It has no value minted on it, that i can see,ive tried many internet searches to try to find a similar one?.

It is gold in colour but im 99.9% sure that it is not gold

On the side as shown there is some wording & a mark of sorts, from the best of my ability i can only make out that the wording say "CLIVRE" or "OLIVRE" with the mark of sorts at the side?

As you can see from the photos it is a large coin / medallion...Help please if you can.

cheers

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Sorry could not upload images of the wording on the side due to maximum file size allowed.

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It is gold plated, rather "gilt" in the correct terminology and appears to date from the early 19th century - contemporary to what it commemorates which appears to be the restoration of the monarchy in France in 1830 - Louis Phillippe, the Bourbon Orleans king whom ruled from 1830 until 1848.

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It is gold plated, rather "gilt" in the correct terminology and appears to date from the early 19th century - contemporary to what it commemorates which appears to be the restoration of the monarchy in France in 1830 - Louis Phillippe, the Bourbon Orleans king whom ruled from 1830 until 1848.

:o You are good :)

Do you know if it is a coin or a medallion / token of sorts, and do you know where i can find a approximate valuation on this.

I will use the information you have given me and try to do some research myself also, if i come up with anything i will post it here.

Cheers Scottish

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It is a commemorative medallion, produced in France and sold by subscription at the time. Being gilt it sold for more than the bronze metal, but less than the silver or gold medals. The French produced a lot of medals, even commemorating stuff that we in the 21st century might think odd now.

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Thanks again SCOTTISHISMONEY.

I have tried for nearly to days to get some more information on this object :angry: but ive got no further.

With the information you gave me and some research i had done unfortunately im no near the end :)

The translation i done using an online source has come up with words that make no sense really when put into English, this has left me puzzled?

The wording on the object is as follows:

"HIST.DE LA REVOLUTION. DE L'EMPIRE DE LA RESTAURATION ET DE LA MON. DE 1830"

at the bottom of this object reads:

"PUBLIE PAR PURRAT FRERES A PARIS"

The translation would read in English as:

"HIST. REVOLUTION.BE L' WORSEN OF THE RESTORATION AND MY. FROM 1830"

"PUBLISH BY PURRAT BROTHERS HAS PARIS"

So i decided to try to search for anything to do with the PURRAT brothers and still come back to square one?

Im still looking though

thanks anyway

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I may have solved one part of this?

After further extensive researching this is what i have come up with, would like to now know your thoughts on this please?

It seems that this is a medal

However its is from the Napoleon Era / or representing that era.

Ive been able to gather this information:

Translation Invalides Napoleon's body:

on back: Troops riding a staircase carrying a coffin and are welcomed by France, dressed in mourning, which tends branches of palm and olive. At bottom right, the warship that carried the ashes of Napoleon STE. Helene, left the church of the Invalides. Above, an eagle which is placed the emperor surrounded by rays. Excerpted smooth.

Engraver: Montagny

Mm 53 - AE gilt

Struck in 1845-1860 (COPPER and pointing hand on The Edge)

The one that i have been able to veiw where i got this information from, is by looks exactly the same as mine.

Now i do not know IF my one is :

A) re-strike

B) a fake

C) or possibly "real"

Unfortunately still no nearer to finding a value though...oh well, will get there in the end?

many thanks SCOTTISH for your help mate

cheers

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Thanks again SCOTTISHISMONEY.

I have tried for nearly to days to get some more information on this object :angry: but ive got no further.

With the information you gave me and some research i had done unfortunately im no near the end :)

The translation i done using an online source has come up with words that make no sense really when put into English, this has left me puzzled?

The wording on the object is as follows:

"HIST.DE LA REVOLUTION. DE L'EMPIRE DE LA RESTAURATION ET DE LA MON. DE 1830"

at the bottom of this object reads:

"PUBLIE PAR PURRAT FRERES A PARIS"

The translation would read in English as:

"HIST. REVOLUTION.BE L' WORSEN OF THE RESTORATION AND MY. FROM 1830"

"PUBLISH BY PURRAT BROTHERS HAS PARIS"

So i decided to try to search for anything to do with the PURRAT brothers and still come back to square one?

Im still looking though

thanks anyway

Online translators are quite often absolute rubbish, and they are totally unable to deal with abbreviations. My GCE French says :

"History of the Revolution; and of the restoration of the Empire and the Monarchy, from 1830"

"Produced (published) by the Purrat Brothers at Paris" (they must have missed the accent from à)

I know nothing about the piece, other than to say it is a handsome looking medallion and worth keeping hold of.

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Online translators are quite often absolute rubbish, and they are totally unable to deal with abbreviations. My GCE French says :

"History of the Revolution; and of the restoration of the Empire and the Monarchy, from 1830"

"Produced (published) by the Purrat Brothers at Paris" (they must have missed the accent from à)

I know nothing about the piece, other than to say it is a handsome looking medallion and worth keeping hold of.

Firstly, Once again for all the help, time and support given by members of this forum..cheers

Could i get the OK from a MOD or owner of this site in order to put a link up so that either or both SCOTTISHISMONEY & PECKRIS could have a look at the site and medal i am quoting from, hopefully this will help in determining the authenticity of the medal that i have???

I didnt want to just put the link up as i feel this would be rude ;)

Peckris , the other problem that i have is i was given the coins and medal from my Dad who no longer wants them and i personaly have no interest in them (as such), so what i am trying to do is go through them slowly and try to find out as much information on them but i have come up against a BIG problem, that being..

there is so much information to take in on each particular coin, i genuinly did not know how mcuh information is contained on each coin?

I will continue my research but leave the collecting to THE PROFESSIONALS

Thanks to all who help ..cheers

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Yes, post a link, I'm sure it won't do any harm.

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Yes, post a link, I'm sure it won't do any harm.

Thank you Chris, its one that im sure that you and other forum members would have heard of..But cheers, hopefully this will help me get to the bottom of things?

This is the homepage:

http://maxentius.lamoneta.it/index.htm

and this is the page that shows a medal the same / similar to mine?

http://maxentius.lamoneta.it/PagineMedaglie/Ritorno_restiNapoleone_6.htm

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