Sitting on a rarity?

[argentumandcoins 70]

Dear old Dad decided to check the bronze halfpennies this week.

Being retired he has time to, put them on scales, under microscopes, let the cat sniff them for fishyness etc etc. Anyway, just this once after months of me banging on, he opened up the 1953 proof set and checked the 1/2d (I always check it and the 1d in any auction lots I find) only to find it was the elusive 2 + B rarity 14 in absolute FDC.

Another scratched off the wants list, but now of course I'll have to find the commoner 2 + A (without splitting a set) that he thought we had!

Anybody else had a similar experience?

[Peckris 579]

Dear old Dad decided to check the bronze halfpennies this week.

Being retired he has time to, put them on scales, under microscopes, let the cat sniff them for fishyness etc etc. Anyway, just this once after months of me banging on, he opened up the 1953 proof set and checked the 1/2d (I always check it and the 1d in any auction lots I find) only to find it was the elusive 2 + B rarity 14 in absolute FDC.

Another scratched off the wants list, but now of course I'll have to find the commoner 2 + A (without splitting a set) that he thought we had!

Anybody else had a similar experience?

You sure you're not talking about the farthing? There's a very rare 2+A proof farthing, but the 2+B is common.

1953 halfpennies have two obverses (neither of them rare) and one reverse.

As for the penny, I assume you're talking about the experimental Type 1 (edge border toothed)? You can forget that! There is one example known - possibly two at the most - you can save yourself a lot of time looking for that one.

[argentumandcoins 70]

Dear old Dad decided to check the bronze halfpennies this week.

Being retired he has time to, put them on scales, under microscopes, let the cat sniff them for fishyness etc etc. Anyway, just this once after months of me banging on, he opened up the 1953 proof set and checked the 1/2d (I always check it and the 1d in any auction lots I find) only to find it was the elusive 2 + B rarity 14 in absolute FDC.

Another scratched off the wants list, but now of course I'll have to find the commoner 2 + A (without splitting a set) that he thought we had!

Anybody else had a similar experience?

You sure you're not talking about the farthing? There's a very rare 2+A proof farthing, but the 2+B is common.

1953 halfpennies have two obverses (neither of them rare) and one reverse.

As for the penny, I assume you're talking about the experimental Type 1 (edge border toothed)? You can forget that! There is one example known - possibly two at the most - you can save yourself a lot of time looking for that one.

No, I'm not talking about the Farthing. Freeman 465A is obverse 2 reverse B and rarity 14. That's the first in dozens of sets I've had/looked at. At rarity 14 it's scarcer than the 1956 4 + C, of which I have only seen one in 10 years.

Thanks for mentioning the Farthing though, it's not something I've bothered with as we don't collect them.

That's another 1953 proof coin to start checking (Freeman has it at rarity 9 and the 2 + B at rarity 6).

As for the penny I'll keep checking, you just never know. Stranger things have turned up (1952 halfcrowns in change for example!).

[Rob 3,152]

No, there are 2 reverses for the 1953 proof. The rare one is reverse B with the thick rim. I've got the Bamford coin, but am not aware of any sold that have been listed as such other than this coin for at least 6 or 7 years and probably more. Given that I have checked virtually every proof 1953 halfpenny I have encountered on ebay and in auction lots for years and not unearthed another, I think they are rarer than Freeman's R14.

[Peckris 579]

No, there are 2 reverses for the 1953 proof. The rare one is reverse B with the thick rim. I've got the Bamford coin, but am not aware of any sold that have been listed as such other than this coin for at least 6 or 7 years and probably more. Given that I have checked virtually every proof 1953 halfpenny I have encountered on ebay and in auction lots for years and not unearthed another, I think they are rarer than Freeman's R14.

I didn't even know this existed. There's no 465A in my Freeman (I just checked) so it must be a later addition. But one thing's for certain - if the rarer reverse is Freeman's Reverse B (long teeth) I would have spotted one straight off, so I've never seen one I can confidently say.

[Peckris 579]

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I spat the best part of a mouthful of coffee over the screen when I read that

[azda 979]

Yuan Shu sent 100 thousand troops led by General Ji Ling to attack Liu Bei. For fear of Lü Bu in Xuzhou who might lend Liu a hand Yuan wrote Lü a letter

dog clothes,

together with many food supplies as giftsdog clothes asking him not to help Liu. Liu on the other hand wrote lüa letter asking for assistance. “If I remain an onlooker with folded armsâ€thought Lü “I will be in danger after Yuan defeats Liu. But if I help Liu Yuan will be be resentful to me.†So Lü invited both Liu Bei and Ji Ling to a bqnqet. 　

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　Lü sat between Liu and Ji at the banquet.cheap aion kinah After a few rounds of toasts Lü began “Please grant me a favor by stopping the fight.†When Ji Ling refused Lu shouted for his long lance to be brought over. Both Liu and Ji got a fright. “I'll stand my lance 150steps away outside the gate.

If my arrow hits its edge you two will stop your fight. And if I miss the target you have your own way.â€

replica rolex,Ji secretly hoped that he would miss the targetreplica rolex while Liu crossed his fingers wished Lu succees. Lü and wine brought up to him. After each one had a cup Lu arched his bow aimed and shot with a big shout. The arrow flew like lightening toward the target and hit right on the edge of the lance. A big applause rose from everybody around. Lu dropped his bow and laughed saying “You see even the heavens wish that you stop fighting.†With his excellent archery Lü averted a fight between the two sides

replica rolex,

　Following the interlocking stratagems they had laidreplica rolex Wang Yun betrothed his step daughter Diao Chan to Lü Bu then to sow discord between the two presented the girl to Dong Zhou as a concubine. Lü Bu was furious and each time he met Diao Chan the latter feigned a sad tearful look. One day while Dong Chan was in court Lü Bu rushed back to Dong Zhuo's residence to see the girl. In the Fengyi Pavilion the girl said to him with a desperate look

flyff penya,

“I have prolonged my life in disgrace simply so I could have a final meeting with you and let you know my feelings.flyff penya Ishould have waited upon you but unfortunately Dong Zhuo took me by force. We can only meet in the next life…†So saying she meant to throw herself into the lotus pool. Lü Bu hurriedly held her back and swore “How can I be a man if I fail to marry you?â€

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　 Suddenly aware of Lü Bu's absencemaple story mesos Dong Zhuo suspicious rushed back to his residence to see Diao Chan was nowhere. the service maids told him the girl and Lü Bu were in the back garden. Dong Zhuo rushed there and at the sight of the two roared with anger. Lü Bu fled. When Dong Zhuo got back to his bedroom he saw Diao Chan's face was tearful. Being demanded for an answer the girl said “I was enjoying flowers in the back garden when Lü Bu stole in to take my liberty. I tried to escape but he drove me to the pavilion with his lance…†Before long the interlocking stratagems worked out-Dong Zhuo was killed by Lü Bu.

You, sir, are a wanker.

Lol, i near spat my coffee oot when i read Pecks reply

[Peckris 579]

Yuan Shu sent 100 thousand troops led by General Ji Ling to attack Liu Bei. For fear of Lü Bu in Xuzhou who might lend Liu a hand Yuan wrote Lü a letter

dog clothes,

together with many food supplies as giftsdog clothes asking him not to help Liu. Liu on the other hand wrote lüa letter asking for assistance. “If I remain an onlooker with folded armsâ€thought Lü “I will be in danger after Yuan defeats Liu. But if I help Liu Yuan will be be resentful to me.†So Lü invited both Liu Bei and Ji Ling to a bqnqet. 　

cheap aion kinah,

　Lü sat between Liu and Ji at the banquet.cheap aion kinah After a few rounds of toasts Lü began “Please grant me a favor by stopping the fight.†When Ji Ling refused Lu shouted for his long lance to be brought over. Both Liu and Ji got a fright. “I'll stand my lance 150steps away outside the gate.

If my arrow hits its edge you two will stop your fight. And if I miss the target you have your own way.â€

replica rolex,Ji secretly hoped that he would miss the targetreplica rolex while Liu crossed his fingers wished Lu succees. Lü and wine brought up to him. After each one had a cup Lu arched his bow aimed and shot with a big shout. The arrow flew like lightening toward the target and hit right on the edge of the lance. A big applause rose from everybody around. Lu dropped his bow and laughed saying “You see even the heavens wish that you stop fighting.†With his excellent archery Lü averted a fight between the two sides

replica rolex,

　Following the interlocking stratagems they had laidreplica rolex Wang Yun betrothed his step daughter Diao Chan to Lü Bu then to sow discord between the two presented the girl to Dong Zhou as a concubine. Lü Bu was furious and each time he met Diao Chan the latter feigned a sad tearful look. One day while Dong Chan was in court Lü Bu rushed back to Dong Zhuo's residence to see the girl. In the Fengyi Pavilion the girl said to him with a desperate look

flyff penya,

“I have prolonged my life in disgrace simply so I could have a final meeting with you and let you know my feelings.flyff penya Ishould have waited upon you but unfortunately Dong Zhuo took me by force. We can only meet in the next life…†So saying she meant to throw herself into the lotus pool. Lü Bu hurriedly held her back and swore “How can I be a man if I fail to marry you?â€

maple story mesos,

　 Suddenly aware of Lü Bu's absencemaple story mesos Dong Zhuo suspicious rushed back to his residence to see Diao Chan was nowhere. the service maids told him the girl and Lü Bu were in the back garden. Dong Zhuo rushed there and at the sight of the two roared with anger. Lü Bu fled. When Dong Zhuo got back to his bedroom he saw Diao Chan's face was tearful. Being demanded for an answer the girl said “I was enjoying flowers in the back garden when Lü Bu stole in to take my liberty. I tried to escape but he drove me to the pavilion with his lance…†Before long the interlocking stratagems worked out-Dong Zhuo was killed by Lü Bu.

You, sir, are a wanker.

Lol, i near spat my coffee oot when i read Pecks reply

[Red Riley 2]

You, sir, are a wanker.

And badly in need of help...

[Peckris 579]

You, sir, are a wanker.

And badly in need of help...

Help him wank? Not I, sir

[Red Riley 2]

Didn't think of it like that!

[1949threepence 3,367]

You, sir, are a wanker.

And badly in need of help...

Help him wank? Not I, sir

Didn't think of it like that!

On the other hand "jan1213" might be a nice looking woman.....jan, janette, janet ?

....OK, I'll get me coat --------->

Edited July 13, 2010 by 1949threepence

[Peckris 579]

You, sir, are a wanker.

And badly in need of help...

Help him wank? Not I, sir

Didn't think of it like that!

On the other hand "jan1213" might be a nice looking woman.....jan, janette, janet ?

....OK, I'll get me coat --------->

That would be an old mac, right?