Strange 1936 Penny

[azda 979]

Ok, seriously it's not the best looking or highest graded coin, but look at the date, to the left of the 1, is that another smaller 1? Also the P & Y in PENNY look out of line, unless its the photo

Edited July 22, 2010 by azda

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

No, not IMO, the die isn't very clean and there are 'bits' all the way up from 6 O'clock to 9 O'clock.

As for the lettering, well, mine's exactly like that.

[azda 979]

I can obviously enlarge my picture and for me its definately a 1, i do see what you mean though about bits around it, but i'm positive its a 1. We'll see when it arrives though If you wish, send me a pm with your email address and i'll send a bigger image, only if you wish. Ok i've done some enlarging myself. What i think is a 1 also has a line just like this 1 on the bottom

Edited July 22, 2010 by azda

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

I can see what you're saying, but it's not a '1' it's a piece of something that has got onto the die.

You're tilting at windmills again Don.

[argentumandcoins 70]

I can obviously enlarge my picture and for me its definately a 1, i do see what you mean though about bits around it, but i'm positive its a 1. We'll see when it arrives though If you wish, send me a pm with your email address and i'll send a bigger image, only if you wish. Ok i've done some enlarging myself. What i think is a 1 also has a line just like this 1 on the bottom

That certainly looks like a 1. Obviously we'll know better when you have it in the hand. Looks similar to the viccy penny that was sent for authentication?

Having handled heaps and heaps of 36 Pennies I can safely say I have never seen anything like it.

[azda 979]

I can obviously enlarge my picture and for me its definately a 1, i do see what you mean though about bits around it, but i'm positive its a 1. We'll see when it arrives though If you wish, send me a pm with your email address and i'll send a bigger image, only if you wish. Ok i've done some enlarging myself. What i think is a 1 also has a line just like this 1 on the bottom

That certainly looks like a 1. Obviously we'll know better when you have it in the hand. Looks similar to the viccy penny that was sent for authentication?

Having handled heaps and heaps of 36 Pennies I can safely say I have never seen anything like it.

Still waiting on the Viccy penny John, will be posting pictures first before i send it off, could'nt let you all sit there in suspense, and i appreciate the feedback from members of the forum, so pix first then off it goes. And yes this 1936 is definately strange, i'm about 80% sure that its a 1

[azda 979]

I can see what you're saying, but it's not a '1' it's a piece of something that has got onto the die.

You're tilting at windmills again Don.

It might be a small 1 that got stuck in the die 400 Its a 1 my friend, time and new pix will tell, probably by next week, it only cost 3 euros, so no big loss either way.

Don x

[argentumandcoins 70]

I can see what you're saying, but it's not a '1' it's a piece of something that has got onto the die.

You're tilting at windmills again Don.

It might be a small 1 that got stuck in the die 400 Its a 1 my friend, time and new pix will tell, probably by next week, it only cost 3 euros, so no big loss either way.

Don x

Chickens and eggs Don!

It might just be a 1 shaped die flaw

Maybe you could send it to the BBC and they could feature it on the One Show

[azda 979]

Seriously John, if you have the original image i have and then enlarge it, it is definately a 1 <<<<<<< exactly like this with the strike underneath. If you like, pm me your email and i'll send it on and then you might see it better, i'll be off in 10 mins though

Edited July 22, 2010 by azda

[argentumandcoins 70]

Seriously John, if you have the original image i have and then enlarge it, it is definately a 1 <<<<<<< exactly like this with the strike underneath. If you like, pm me your email and i'll send it on and then you might see it better, i'll be off in 10 mins though

I'd need the coin and my microscope to stick my neck on the block Dave

[azda 979]

Seriously John, if you have the original image i have and then enlarge it, it is definately a 1 <<<<<<< exactly like this with the strike underneath. If you like, pm me your email and i'll send it on and then you might see it better, i'll be off in 10 mins though

I'd need the coin and my microscope to stick my neck on the block Dave

Ok, then we shall all have to sit and wait, but interested to hear what others might think in the meantime.......This coin collecting lark is exciting eh

[azda 979]

No, not IMO, the die isn't very clean and there are 'bits' all the way up from 6 O'clock to 9 O'clock.

As for the lettering, well, mine's exactly like that.

BTW 400, nice coin mate lol

[Colin G. 147]

I have come across similar things on farthings, that have seriously resembled additional numerals, and allsorts, but when I sit back and think about it and get my level head on, I always find a plausible explanation. I am not discounting it as a 1, but I will reserve judgement until a magnified clear image is provided.

[davidrj 194]

I have come across similar things on farthings, that have seriously resembled additional numerals, and allsorts, but when I sit back and think about it and get my level head on, I always find a plausible explanation. I am not discounting it as a 1, but I will reserve judgement until a magnified clear image is provided.

looks like 1 to me

very odd

[Colin G. 147]

I think you would need to magnify to at least x60 to be definitive. It is surprising what die cracks can resemble, but once magnified we will have a better idea

[azda 979]

well the dealer has emailed and said it will be posted Monday, so pix Tuesday/Wednesday.

[1949threepence 3,367]

well the dealer has emailed and said it will be posted Monday, so pix Tuesday/Wednesday.

You'll soon find out then.

I think it's a blodge of something above another blodge of something, giving the appearance of a "1". There's some more muck between the "3" & "6".

But until you get coin in hand, who knows for certain.

[azda 979]

yes i saw the crap between the 3 and 6 but nothing between 1 and 9 then what looks like a perfect 1, but it will soon be in hand to have a serious good going over

[azda 979]

Ok, am a little cheesed off. The dealer has sent me a completely different coin and i'm seriously not amused. Dealers gallery pic and the one he's sent here. If you look at the OBV pic i took, you can see dirt inbetween EX in REX, but nothing on his picture. I think he may have spotted the marks under the date personally. I have emailed him and waiting on a reply

Edited July 27, 2010 by azda

[azda 979]

Dealers Gallery pic once more

[Peckris 579]

Dealers Gallery pic once more

Agreed - they're nothing like

Wonder if it's a lurker of this forum, and read this thread?

[1949threepence 3,367]

Dealers Gallery pic once more

Agreed - they're nothing like

Wonder if it's a lurker of this forum, and read this thread?

I think that is distinctly possible.

[davidrj 194]

Dealers Gallery pic once more

Agreed - they're nothing like

Wonder if it's a lurker of this forum, and read this thread?

I think that is distinctly possible.

Probably safer not to post anything unusual until you have the coin in hand.

Mind you many non-numismatic Ebay sellers often do not understand we are interested in a specific coin, and use stock/library pictures. I've been caught this way, but not on anything of value. Nothing enough for me to get too upset bar an explanatory email to the seller.

[1949threepence 3,367]

Dealers Gallery pic once more

Agreed - they're nothing like

Wonder if it's a lurker of this forum, and read this thread?

I think that is distinctly possible.

Probably safer not to post anything unusual until you have the coin in hand.

Mind you many non-numismatic Ebay sellers often do not understand we are interested in a specific coin, and use stock/library pictures. I've been caught this way, but not on anything of value. Nothing enough for me to get too upset bar an explanatory email to the seller.

Agreed. Try not to alert sellers if you spot an anomaly.

Also, I like the phrase, "the coin you see is the coin you get"

[azda 979]

Well he gave me a scenario that he had many of these blah blah blah, but not according to his website. Am more than sure that 1 he's spotted it himself when getting it ready to send, or 2 he's read the boards, either way i'm not finished with it. I want the coin i paid for. I even sent him the lagernumber of the coin, so he can't say he can't find it etc.

Another email will be sent today when i have time.