help with this 1875 penny

[scott 144]

firstly, i can see what could be an H on the picture, and on another however to the eye there is no sign of the H, so i want to put that by the wayside

however i was investigating my 1874 H's for die differances one is 7+H (with a narrow date) and another with wide spaced date another is 6+G

now for the second part.

this 1875 reverse seems to have the trident of the 6+g

[Peckris 579]

firstly, i can see what could be an H on the picture, and on another however to the eye there is no sign of the H, so i want to put that by the wayside

however i was investigating my 1874 H's for die differances one is 7+H (with a narrow date) and another with wide spaced date another is 6+G

now for the second part.

this 1875 reverse seems to have the trident of the 6+g

Trident - what trident? Basically, there is no way to tell!

[1949threepence 3,367]

There's a half decent 1875H to be seen here

Freeman 85 8 + J R11

Given the extreme rarity of these pennies, it's actually well worth bidding on. I'm sorry to say that I can't make out any meaningful detail on Scott's picture.

[davidrj 194]

Given the extreme rarity of these pennies,

Here are my three

all with major faults -

a worn flat

b very heavily brassoed

c damn great hole

[RLC35 288]

Here's mine. It's hard to take a pic thru a slab. There are hairlines on the slab, but the actual coin has extremely smooth fields. It is in a NGC slab (USA).

[1949threepence 3,367]

Given the extreme rarity of these pennies,

all with major faults -

a worn flat

b very heavily brassoed

c damn great hole

Pity about the brassoed one, David. That would have been quite a decent specimen, otherwise.

Here's mine. It's hard to take a pic thru a slab. There are hairlines on the slab, but the actual coin has extremely smooth fields. It is in a NGC slab (USA).

Superb one. I'm envious.

Edited July 26, 2010 by 1949threepence

[davidrj 194]

Given the extreme rarity of these pennies,

all with major faults -

a worn flat

b very heavily brassoed

c damn great hole

Pity about the brassoed one, David. That would have been quite a decent specimen, otherwise.

This was a $20 coin from US Ebay, just listed as 1875 penny and it does have the scarce obverse variety of reentered legend

The other two came from circulation many years ago, still have bad feelings towards the guy who decided to drive a nail through a good penny!

Superb one. I'm envious.

me too!

[1949threepence 3,367]

Given the extreme rarity of these pennies,

all with major faults -

a worn flat

b very heavily brassoed

c damn great hole

Pity about the brassoed one, David. That would have been quite a decent specimen, otherwise.

This was a $20 coin from US Ebay, just listed as 1875 penny and it does have the scarce obverse variety of reentered legend

The other two came from circulation many years ago, still have bad feelings towards the guy who decided to drive a nail through a good penny!

Superb one. I'm envious.

me too!

Of course it may be the hole that accounts for its relatively good condition. Looks like it's got about, what, 40 to 45 years wear on it. So maybe it was put on a hook sometime about the first world war, and remained there until being re-discovered in the 50's/60's, temporarily re-entering circulation until you picked it up.

Otherwise it might have been like your first one.

Pure speculation, of course

[davidrj 194]

Of course it may be the hole that accounts for its relatively good condition. Looks like it's got about, what, 40 to 45 years wear on it. So maybe it was put on a hook sometime about the first world war, and remained there until being re-discovered in the 50's/60's, temporarily re-entering circulation until you picked it up.

Otherwise it might have been like your first one.

Pure speculation, of course

Possibly true! If only our coins could talk I actually like the holed one, it's got character

I have the same dichotomy between my two narrow date 1879s, one cleaned, one holed. Suppose in 50 yrs time whoever owns them; the cleaned ones will have retoned, but the others will be forever holy

[1949threepence 3,367]

Of course it may be the hole that accounts for its relatively good condition. Looks like it's got about, what, 40 to 45 years wear on it. So maybe it was put on a hook sometime about the first world war, and remained there until being re-discovered in the 50's/60's, temporarily re-entering circulation until you picked it up.

Otherwise it might have been like your first one.

Pure speculation, of course

Possibly true! If only our coins could talk I actually like the holed one, it's got character

I have the same dichotomy between my two narrow date 1879s, one cleaned, one holed. Suppose in 50 yrs time whoever owns them; the cleaned ones will have retoned, but the others will be forever holy

Now wouldn't that tell a tale

[Peckris 579]

Of course it may be the hole that accounts for its relatively good condition. Looks like it's got about, what, 40 to 45 years wear on it. So maybe it was put on a hook sometime about the first world war, and remained there until being re-discovered in the 50's/60's, temporarily re-entering circulation until you picked it up.

Otherwise it might have been like your first one.

Pure speculation, of course

Possibly true! If only our coins could talk I actually like the holed one, it's got character

I have the same dichotomy between my two narrow date 1879s, one cleaned, one holed. Suppose in 50 yrs time whoever owns them; the cleaned ones will have retoned, but the others will be forever holy

Now wouldn't that tell a tale

Here's mine (for my 1,111th post!). It doesn't look much, but it's less blotchy than the scan shows. As for cost - I picked it out of a dealer's 50p tray (years ago) and was silly enough to let him know it was the H variety. He let me have it for 50p anyway!

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