1933 Penny on ebay

[azda 979]

Did anyone see it before the seller pulled it. Apparently it was in the newspaper.

Article here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1302005/1933-penny-coin-valued-80k-offered-eBay-suddenly-withdrawn.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

Well, if that's a fake, it's a pretty good one.

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

If you scroll down to the comments on here: (same article word for word)

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=511679&in_page_id=2

The seller surfaces to tell us that she didn't withdraw it, ebay did ?

[azda 979]

I posted a message asking her to come onto the forum and let us have a looksy

[azda 979]

Well, if that's a fake, it's a pretty good one.

Thats just an example of the 1933 400 lol

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

Well, if that's a fake, it's a pretty good one.

Thats just an example of the 1933 400 lol

Am I getting old ?

[azda 979]

yes

[azda 979]

read the last comment

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=511679&in_page_id=2&expand=true#c529496

[Peckris 579]

Did anyone see it before the seller pulled it. Apparently it was in the newspaper.

Article here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1302005/1933-penny-coin-valued-80k-offered-eBay-suddenly-withdrawn.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Oh it was in a newspaper as well as in The Daily Mail?

Well, if that's a fake, it's a pretty good one.

Just a library picture Be interesting to know which particular example the photo was of.

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

read the last comment

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=511679&in_page_id=2&expand=true#c529496

Well, if she did happen to be browsing the boards wondering whether to post, we could assure her of a friendly welcome

Whilst on the 1933 penny, I came across this;

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100531081627AAd4cTb

Thing with the 1933, is that it has achieved the same status as UFO's, they may well exist, who knows, but absolutely no-one is going to believe it, even if you park one on their lawn.

Same with the penny -that there are 7 has become a 'fact'

[scott 144]

and i would still take a 1954 over one

[Mat 2]

read the last comment

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=511679&in_page_id=2&expand=true#c529496

Well, if she did happen to be browsing the boards wondering whether to post, we could assure her of a friendly welcome

Whilst on the 1933 penny, I came across this;

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100531081627AAd4cTb

Thing with the 1933, is that it has achieved the same status as UFO's, they may well exist, who knows, but absolutely no-one is going to believe it, even if you park one on their lawn.

Same with the penny -that there are 7 has become a 'fact'

I can only assume it may be another urban myth.... however I might as well tell it as I don’t think many people have heard this one. I cannot remember in full so please take it with a pinch of salt if I get some of it wrong...

A firm was producing an advertisement for one of their products. The ad was illustrating something along the lines of, 'you can buy all of this for just 4d' and they pictured four separate pennies with the product. As soon as the ad was published in the newspaper (some time in the late 1930s) thousands if not millions of people phoned the company up asking for the four pennies from the picture as one of them was a 1933 penny. Clever people obviously thought it was a deliberate marketing device, however the company followed up in the paper shortly after that the pennies were genuinely not supposed to be a part of the marketing, apparently one of the guys doing the photo for the ad just pulled four pennies out of his wallet without taking any notice of them and done the picture. Of course by the time it was published and people were phoning in about it he had spent the pennies.

[Peckris 579]

read the last comment

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=511679&in_page_id=2&expand=true#c529496

Well, if she did happen to be browsing the boards wondering whether to post, we could assure her of a friendly welcome

Whilst on the 1933 penny, I came across this;

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100531081627AAd4cTb

Thing with the 1933, is that it has achieved the same status as UFO's, they may well exist, who knows, but absolutely no-one is going to believe it, even if you park one on their lawn.

Same with the penny -that there are 7 has become a 'fact'

I can only assume it may be another urban myth.... however I might as well tell it as I don’t think many people have heard this one. I cannot remember in full so please take it with a pinch of salt if I get some of it wrong...

A firm was producing an advertisement for one of their products. The ad was illustrating something along the lines of, 'you can buy all of this for just 4d' and they pictured four separate pennies with the product. As soon as the ad was published in the newspaper (some time in the late 1930s) thousands if not millions of people phoned the company up asking for the four pennies from the picture as one of them was a 1933 penny. Clever people obviously thought it was a deliberate marketing device, however the company followed up in the paper shortly after that the pennies were genuinely not supposed to be a part of the marketing, apparently one of the guys doing the photo for the ad just pulled four pennies out of his wallet without taking any notice of them and done the picture. Of course by the time it was published and people were phoning in about it he had spent the pennies.

Has definite tones of urban myth!

Similar to the one that claims The Daily Mail is a newspaper

Edited August 18, 2010 by Peckris

[Red Riley 2]

I can only assume it may be another urban myth.... however I might as well tell it as I don’t think many people have heard this one. I cannot remember in full so please take it with a pinch of salt if I get some of it wrong...

A firm was producing an advertisement for one of their products. The ad was illustrating something along the lines of, 'you can buy all of this for just 4d' and they pictured four separate pennies with the product. As soon as the ad was published in the newspaper (some time in the late 1930s) thousands if not millions of people phoned the company up asking for the four pennies from the picture as one of them was a 1933 penny. Clever people obviously thought it was a deliberate marketing device, however the company followed up in the paper shortly after that the pennies were genuinely not supposed to be a part of the marketing, apparently one of the guys doing the photo for the ad just pulled four pennies out of his wallet without taking any notice of them and done the picture. Of course by the time it was published and people were phoning in about it he had spent the pennies.

Has definite tones of urban myth!

Similar to the one that claims The Daily Mail is a newspaper

The last time I heard this one it was just before decimalisation. I don't think anybody has ever managed to dig up the copy you refer to.

On a more serious note Peckris, how dare you criticise the wonderful Daily Mail. It's an outrage! They should bring back hanging for such offences!

Talking of newspapers, I remember hearing the following in about 1970;

The Financial Times is read by the people who own the country;

The Times is read by the people who run the country;

The Daily Telegraph is read by the people who think the country ought to be run the way it used to be run;

The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who think the country ought to be run the way it used to be run;

The Daily Express is read by the people who think it still is; and

The Sun is read by the people who don't care who runs the country as long as she's got big t*ts.

[scott 144]

The Sun is read by the people who don't care who runs the country as long as she's got big t*ts.

as opposed to being big t*ts?

I would think the Royal mint would know how many they minted

interesting that Lavrillier designed a pattern 1933, isn't that the same guy who did french pieces in the late 30's?

[Beebman 2]

I've probably got a little too much time at work today but as I've got access to the online archive of the Times Newspaper up until 1985 I thought I'd have a look to see what I could find with reference to the 1933 penny.

1. 18/08/1965 - Mint Explodes Myth Of 1933 Penny

Article about the publication of that year's Royal Mint annual report in which the locations are known of a total of six 1933 pennies and it says that all the others with that date which have been submitted to the Mint are fakes.

2. 20/03/1969 - 1933 Penny Is Sold For £2,600

Report of a sale of a 1933 Penny at Gledinings Auction. No indication of provenance is given but "The Royal Mint, although authenticating the present specimen, could not account for it".

3. 24/03/1969 - 1933 Penny In Man's Change

Just 4 days later a Mr Noel Tringham of Flintshire found a 1933 Penny in his change in his ex-servicemen's club. (there is no follow-up article to this.)

4. 17/12/1969 - 1d May Be Worth £3,000

A Mr George Atkinson of Lichfield in Staffs found a 1933 penny in the money collected in his part-time newspaper round. (again there is no follow-up article to this.)

5. 20/11/1972 - Rare 1933 Penny In Auction Sale This Week

Report that Sotheby's are to sell the specimen from under the foundation stone of St.Mary's, Hawksworth Wood. ("Reflecting sadly that even church property is no longer sacred.")

6. 25/11/1972 - £7,000 Paid For Rare 1933 Penny

Report that the £7,000 price was paid at Sotheby's for the whole set of 1933 coins from the church.

The only later mention I can find is in a Spink's display ad of 08/11/1985 announcing a forthcoming auction which includes the sale of a 1933 penny from the Norweb collection.

[1949threepence 3,367]

If you scroll down to the comments on here: (same article word for word)

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=511679&in_page_id=2

The seller surfaces to tell us that she didn't withdraw it, ebay did ?

I posted a message asking her to come onto the forum and let us have a looksy

It would be brilliant if she did, but sadly, I think the moment has passed.

[1949threepence 3,367]

Well, if that's a fake, it's a pretty good one.

The reproductions can be bloody good ~ just look at this one

The photo in the Mail is probably of a genuine one. But it is the Mail, and not renowned for reliability !!!

[1949threepence 3,367]

I've probably got a little too much time at work today but as I've got access to the online archive of the Times Newspaper up until 1985 I thought I'd have a look to see what I could find with reference to the 1933 penny.

1. 18/08/1965 - Mint Explodes Myth Of 1933 Penny

Article about the publication of that year's Royal Mint annual report in which the locations are known of a total of six 1933 pennies and it says that all the others with that date which have been submitted to the Mint are fakes.

2. 20/03/1969 - 1933 Penny Is Sold For £2,600

Report of a sale of a 1933 Penny at Gledinings Auction. No indication of provenance is given but "The Royal Mint, although authenticating the present specimen, could not account for it".

3. 24/03/1969 - 1933 Penny In Man's Change

Just 4 days later a Mr Noel Tringham of Flintshire found a 1933 Penny in his change in his ex-servicemen's club. (there is no follow-up article to this.)

4. 17/12/1969 - 1d May Be Worth £3,000

A Mr George Atkinson of Lichfield in Staffs found a 1933 penny in the money collected in his part-time newspaper round. (again there is no follow-up article to this.)

5. 20/11/1972 - Rare 1933 Penny In Auction Sale This Week

Report that Sotheby's are to sell the specimen from under the foundation stone of St.Mary's, Hawksworth Wood. ("Reflecting sadly that even church property is no longer sacred.")

6. 25/11/1972 - £7,000 Paid For Rare 1933 Penny

Report that the £7,000 price was paid at Sotheby's for the whole set of 1933 coins from the church.

The only later mention I can find is in a Spink's display ad of 08/11/1985 announcing a forthcoming auction which includes the sale of a 1933 penny from the Norweb collection.

I wonder what the two 1969 entries were all about. Whether they really did turn up 1933 pennies, be they fake or real. More likely to be publicity stunts as the hard facts show the number which were produced, and they were all accounted for.

Interestingly, I note that the e bay "sale" of the supposed 1933 penny followed immediately after the piece on "The One Show" about the 1933 penny. Co-incidence ?

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

Well, if that's a fake, it's a pretty good one.

The reproductions can be bloody good ~ just look at this one

The photo in the Mail is probably of a genuine one. But it is the Mail, and not renowned for reliability !!!

That's a bit worrying, how have they done that then ?

[Red Riley 2]

That's a bit worrying, how have they done that then ?

Take a 1935, carefully lower the exergue, then take a fraction of a mm. off the height of the date at the same time recutting the 5 into a 3 by removing the vertical line and adding an oblique one at the height of the old exergue. Very skilled job and after all that, you probably deserve the £100 or so you would get for a 'genuine forgery'.