James Workman Penny sale

[Red Riley 2]

So did anyone win any coins from the Workman sale? If so, care to share which?

Yes and no.

[azda 979]

Yes amd no Derek?

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

So did anyone win any coins from the Workman sale? If so, care to share which?

I'm not sure to be honest, I haven't heard anything either way ?

[Red Riley 2]

So did anyone win any coins from the Workman sale? If so, care to share which?

I'm not sure to be honest, I haven't heard anything either way ?

I e-mailed them yesterday. They've not got round to sending out the invoices yet but if you haven't been informed that you've been outbid, then you won. Or at least that's the theory.

[Red Riley 2]

Yes amd no Derek?

Oh okay, no. 43 (1873 1d). I actually bid on 5 items but that was the only one I won.

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

Yes amd no Derek?

Oh okay, no. 43 (1873 1d). I actually bid on 5 items but that was the only one I won.

Did you get notification that you had won, or did you have to ask ?

[Red Riley 2]

Yes amd no Derek?

Oh okay, no. 43 (1873 1d). I actually bid on 5 items but that was the only one I won.

Did you get notification that you had won, or did you have to ask ?

I didn't ask but as there was only one bid (worrying...) and it was the amount I bid, I assumed it was mine. They did tell me I had been outbid on the others.

[azda 979]

Looks like i might have got 2 then, in fact i must have won because the 2 i bid on only had 1 bid on, which hopefully were mine, funny thing is, i forgot which 2 they were but they weren't anything major, so no panic, just 2 upgrades

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

I didn't ask but as there was only one bid (worrying...) and it was the amount I bid, I assumed it was mine. They did tell me I had been outbid on the others.

Looks like i might have got 2 then, in fact i must have won because the 2 i bid on only had 1 bid on, which hopefully were mine, funny thing is, i forgot which 2 they were but they weren't anything major, so no panic, just 2 upgrades

Ah so.

Perhaps they will catch up with themselves later in the week and ask to be paid. I also was told that I had been outbid, but nothing on the others.

[Red Riley 2]

Perhaps they will catch up with themselves later in the week and ask to be paid. I also was told that I had been outbid, but nothing on the others.

My penny turned up this morning without my even having paid for it. So you may have something waiting for you when you get home...

[azda 979]

Perhaps they will catch up with themselves later in the week and ask to be paid. I also was told that I had been outbid, but nothing on the others.

My penny turned up this morning without my even having paid for it. So you may have something waiting for you when you get home...

Did you get an invoice with it Derek?

[Red Riley 2]

Perhaps they will catch up with themselves later in the week and ask to be paid. I also was told that I had been outbid, but nothing on the others.

My penny turned up this morning without my even having paid for it. So you may have something waiting for you when you get home...

Did you get an invoice with it Derek?

Yes. I guess that they trust me having bought the odd thing from them in the past.

[Beebman 2]

I've been watching with interest the continuing bidding for the 1860 F8d 1*+C (Lot 4) and I see today that it's been sold for £4950 after 33 bids. I was wondering if it might make £5000 but it's still a great result for James!

[azda 979]

Hopefully Bernie will reply to this. What can we expect in Part 2? Can it be any better than Part 1? Can we mere mortals afford anything there

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

Hopefully Bernie will reply to this. What can we expect in Part 2? Can it be any better than Part 1? Can we mere mortals afford anything there

I did ask that a few weeks ago.

I had a contact from CCC re the first part and there is just a whiff, the merest hint that they might have their knickers in a twist over exactly who bid on what.

I don't know for sure, we shall have to wait and see how the whole thing plays out.

Re the part two though, to capture the mood of todays triumph in the Ryder cup, you would have thought that they would put their strongest offerings out first in the hope of generating interest.

Again, we shall see.

[Beebman 2]

Hopefully Bernie will reply to this. What can we expect in Part 2? Can it be any better than Part 1? Can we mere mortals afford anything there

I did ask that a few weeks ago.

I had a contact from CCC re the first part and there is just a whiff, the merest hint that they might have their knickers in a twist over exactly who bid on what.

I don't know for sure, we shall have to wait and see how the whole thing plays out.

Re the part two though, to capture the mood of todays triumph in the Ryder cup, you would have thought that they would put their strongest offerings out first in the hope of generating interest.

Again, we shall see.

There's a full-page colour advert from CCC in the October "Coin News" for Part 2 of the sale in which the following eight coins are shown:

1875 Bronze Proof F81

1868 Cupronickel Proof F57

1867 Bronzed Proof F54

1862 3 Plumes variety F39* (Satin 43)

1860 Beaded Border 'mule' (Satin 2)

1869 F59

1865/3 F51

1875H F85 (wide date)

Edited October 4, 2010 by Beebman

[Bernie 203]

Hopefully Bernie will reply to this. What can we expect in Part 2? Can it be any better than Part 1? Can we mere mortals afford anything there

I did ask that a few weeks ago.

I had a contact from CCC re the first part and there is just a whiff, the merest hint that they might have their knickers in a twist over exactly who bid on what.

I don't know for sure, we shall have to wait and see how the whole thing plays out.

Re the part two though, to capture the mood of todays triumph in the Ryder cup, you would have thought that they would put their strongest offerings out first in the hope of generating interest.

Again, we shall see.

There's a full-page colour advert from CCC in the October "Coin News" for Part 2 of the sale in which the following eight coins are shown:

1875 Bronze Proof F81

1868 Cupronickel Proof F57

1867 Bronzed Proof F54

1862 3 Plumes variety F39* (Satin 43)

1860 Beaded Border 'mule' (Satin 2)

1869 F59

1865/3 F51

1875H F85 (wide date)

Thank you all for taking such great interest in the Auction Part 1.

I have been keeping a relatively low profile during the auction and being most careful when replying to emails. I have had to be very careful not to influence the auction bidding in any way, as this would be most unethical.

Congratulations to any readers who managed to secure any of the pennies. commiserastions to any of you who failed to get the coins that you wanted. All bids, winners and losers added to the auction result. James was hoping to achieve £55000 for each part of the auction. The first part realized ~£56,000.

It will probably be over a month before the next auction, so here is a list of what will be on offer, although they may not necessarily appear in this order.

Auction 2

2.1) Gouby 1860B, Dies A+c, Satin 2, Currency pattern obverse, Exceedingly Rare. Ex. Malcolm Peake Collection.

2.2) Gouby 1860BB, Dies B+b, Freeman 8B, Satin 3, P2054 Currency pattern obverse, Exceedingly Rare. Ex. Malcolm Peake Collection.

2.3) Gouby 1860E, Freeman 6, Dies 1+B. Satin 6. P1617

2.4) Gouby 1860F, Freeman 7, Dies 1+C. Satin 7. P1623 Ex. Malcolm Peake Collection.

2.5) Gouby 1860JA, Satin 11, N over N sideways, “A†over “A†in VICTORIA (Freeman 2*+D).

2.6) Gouby 1860DD, Freeman 12, Proof Dies 2+D, P1631 weight 9.904 grams. Bought from S.N.C October 1997, Exceedingly Rare.

2.7) Gouby 1860M, Freeman 14, Satin 13, Dies 3+E, P1626 Extremely Rare in this grade. Bought S.N.C. December 1991, Ex. Keith Ashman Collection.

2.8) Gouby 1860T, Freeman 15*, Satin 19, P1632A with open fishtail and missing colon dots after F:D, Extremely Rare. Ex. Iain Draycott Collection.

2.9) Gouby 1860W, Freeman 16, Dies 5+D, Satin 21, P1633 Unusually small cutaway at base of Victoria’s bust.

2.10) Gouby 1860X, Freeman 16*, Satin 22, P1634 with ONF instead of ONE.

2.11) Gouby 1861A, Freeman 18, Satin 24, Dies 2+D, P1637 Extremely Rare in this grade, Ex. Malcolm Peake Collection.

2.12) Gouby 1861B, Freeman 20, Dies 2+G, Satin 25, P1638 Bought from Michael Gouby.

2.13) Gouby 1861D, Freeman 22, Dies 4+D. Satin 27. P1639

2.13A) Gouby 1861G, Freeman 22* Dies 4*+D Satin 28 with cental cut fishtail, different die pair to coin in Part 1, Extremely rare.

2.14) Gouby 1861Ga, Satin 28A, Freeman 22** with central fishtail and misaligned colon dots after F:D, Exceedingly Rare, just the two known so far.

2.15) Gouby 1861K, Freeman 29, Satin 33, Dies 6+D. P1644

2.16) Gouby 1861L, Freeman 30, Dies 6+D, Satin 34, with 6 over 8 in date. Extremely Rare. Ex. Malcolm Peake Collection.

2.17) Gouby 1861M, Freeman 32, Dies 6+F, Satin 35, P1645A Exceedingly Rare in this Grade, the finest known struck from its die pair. Bought from Michael Gouby.

2.18) Gouby 1861N, Freeman 33, Satin 36, Dies 6+G. P1646

2.19) Gouby 1861N, Freeman 33, Dies 6+G, with close 1 in date.

2.20) Gouby 1861Y, Freeman 37, Bronze Proof, Dies 6+G, P1649 Exceedingly Rare.

2.21) Gouby 1862C, Freeman 39, Satin 40, Dies 6+G. P1653

2.22) Gouby 1862H, Freeman 39, Dies 6+G, Satin 44, with B in BRITT struck over an R. Exceedingly Rare.

2.23) Gouby 1862F, Freeman 39*, Satin 43, Dies 6+G with three extra Plumes. Exceedingly Rare.

2.24) Gouby 1863A, Freeman 42, Satin 45, Dies 6+G. P1655

2.25) Gouby 1864B, Freeman 48, Dies 6+G, Satin 52, P1663 with Crosslet 4 in date. Extra Rare in this grade. Ex. Keith Ashman Collection.

2.26) Gouby 1865A, Freeman 50, Dies 6+G. P1667

2.27) Gouby 1865B, Freeman 51, Dies 6+G P1666 with 5 over 3 in date, Extra Rare in this grade. Bought from Colin Cooke.

2.28) Gouby 1866A, Freeman 52, dies 6+G. P1670

2.29) Gouby 1867R, Freeman 54, Proof Dies 6+G, P1680 Bronzed Proof, Exceedingly Rare, bought from Spink & Son.

2.30) Gouby 1868P, Freeman 58, Proof Dies 6+G, P1683 Bronzed Proof, bought from A H Baldwin.

2.31) Gouby 1868T, Freeman 57, Proof Dies 6+G. P1684 Struck in CuproNickel. Extremely Rare. Ex. Alderley Collection.

2.32) Gouby 1869A, Freeman 59, Dies 6+G, P1685 prooflike obverse and reverse. Pleasing, and Extremely Rare in this grade.

2.33) Gouby 1874A, Freeman 65, Dies 6+G. P1690

2.34) Gouby 1874H, Freeman 66, Dies 6+G. P1694

2.35) Gouby 1874C, Freeman 70, Dies 7+G. P1692

2.36) Gouby 1874L, Freeman 71, Dies 7+G. P1696

2.37) Gouby 1874N, Freeman 73, Dies 7+H. P1697

2.38) Gouby 1874N, Freeman 73, Dies 7+H with 7 over 7 in date. Extremely Rare.

2.39) Gouby 1874P, Freeman 74, Proof Dies 7+H. P1698 Extra Rare.

2.40) Gouby 1874E, Freeman 77, Dies 8+G. Extra Rare in this Grade. Ex. Malcolm Peake Collection.

2.41) Gouby 1874F, Freeman 78, Dies 8+H. Extremely Rare in this grade, probably the finest known. Ex. Keith Ashman Collection.

2.42) Gouby 1875P, Freeman 81, Proof Dies 8+H, P1702 Bronze Proof graded as CGS90, Exceedingly Rare, NFDC.

2.43) Gouby 1875C, Freeman 82, Dies 8+J. P1703

2.44) Gouby 1875H, Freeman 85, Dies 8+J, P1705 Extremely rare in this grade, Ex. Keith Ashman Collection.

2.45) Gouby 1876A, Dies 8+K, no H ? clogged die?

2.46) Gouby 1876K, Freeman 89, Dies 8+K. P1708

2.47) Gouby 1877B, Freeman 91, Dies 8+J. P1709

2.48) Gouby 1877P, Freeman 93, Proof Dies 8+J, P1710 Exceedingly Rare, Ex. C W Peck and Turner Collections.

2.49) Gouby 1878A, Freeman 94, Dies 8+J. P1712

2.50) Gouby 1879C, Freeman 98, Dies 9+K, P1716 Could be the finest known. Ex. Malcolm Peake Collection.

2.51) Gouby 1880A, Freeman 99, Dies 9+J. P1717

2.52) Gouby 1880B, Freeman 101, Dies 9+L. P1719

2.53) Gouby 1881B, Freeman 105, Dies 10+J. Extremely Rare in this grade. Very underated. Ex. Malcolm Peake Collection.

2.54) Gouby 1881C, Freeman 106, Dies 11+J. P1722 Extremely Rare in this grade, possibly the finest known. Ex. Malcolm Peake Collection.

2.55) Gouby 1881H, Freeman 108, Dies 11+M. P1724

2.56) Gouby 1882K, Freeman 111*, Dies 11+M with 2 over 1 in date. This was THE coin owned by Malcolm Peake who first reported the existence of this overdate.

2.57) Gouby 1882L, Freeman 114, Dies 12+M. P1728

2.58) Gouby 1882N, Freeman 115, Dies 12+N. P1729

2.59) Gouby 1884A, Freeman 119, Dies 12+N. P1733

2.60) Gouby 1885A, Freeman 121, Dies 12+N. P1735

2.61) Gouby 1888B, Freeman 126#, Dies 12+N with top serifs of “Iâ€s missing in VICTORIA.

2.62) Gouby 1889Cd, Freeman 127##, Dies 12+N. 9 in date struck extremely wide. Extremely Rare. Ex. Malcolm Peake collection.

2.63) Gouby 1891A, Freeman 132, Dies 12+N. P1744

2.64) Gouby 1893A, Freeman 136, Dies 12+N. P1748

2.65) Gouby 1894A, Freeman 138, Dies 12+N. P1749

2.66) Gouby 1895P, Freeman 140, Proof Dies 1+A. P1940 P in PENNY 2mm. from trident. Exceedingly Rare. Ex. Malcolm Peake Collection.

2.67) Gouby 1897A, Freeman 145, Dies 1+B. P1943

2.68) Gouby 1897C, Freeman 148, Dies 1+C. Extremely Rare in this grade.

2.69) Freeman 151, Dies 1+B. with milled edge. Extremely Rare.

2.70) Gouby 1900A, Freeman 153, Dies 1+B. P1947

2.71) Gouby 1902A, Freeman 156, Dies 1+A, P2205 Low Tide.

2.72) Gouby 1902B, Freeman 157, Dies 1+B, P2206.

2.73) Gouby 1903B, Freeman 158A, Dies 1+B, Open 3 in date. Believed to be the

finest known. Bought from Paul Wincott.

2.74) Gouby 1904A, Freeman 159, Dies 1+B. P2209

2.75) Gouby 1905B, Freeman 161, Dies 1+C. P2211

2.76) Gouby 1906A, Freeman 162, Dies 1+C. P2212

2.77) Gouby 1907A, Freeman 163, Dies 1+C. P2213

2.78) Gouby 1908A, Freeman 164, Dies 1+C. P2214

2.79) Gouby 1908B, Freeman 164A, Dies 1*+C. Extremely Rare.

2.80) Gouby 1909A, Freeman 168, Dies 2+D. P2218

2.81) Gouby 1909A, Freeman 168, Dies 2+D, with a Dot after N in ONE. Exceedingly Rare.

2.82) Gouby 1909B, Freeman 169, Dies 2+E. Extremely Rare.

2.83) Gouby 1910A, Freeman 170, Dies 2+E. P2219

2.84) Gouby 1911X, Hollow Neck, Extremely Rare.

2.85) Gouby 1913B, Freeman 175, Dies 1+B. P2246

2.86) Gouby 1913C, Freeman 176, Dies 2+A. P2246A

2.87) Gouby 1913D, Freeman 177, Dies 2+B. P2247

2.88) Gouby 1915B, Freeman 179*, Dies 2+B. recessed ear, broken tooth in toothed border near second T of BRITT.

2.89) Gouby 1916B, Freeman 180*, Dies 2+B. recessed ear, broken tooth in toothed border near second T in BRITT.

2.90) Gouby 1917A, Freeman 181, Dies 2+B. P2251

2.91) Gouby 1919A, Freeman 185, Dies 2+B. P2255

2.92) Gouby 1919H, Freeman 186, Dies 2+B. P2256

2.93) Gouby 1919K, Freeman 187, Dies 2+B. P2257

2.94) Freeman 188*, Dies 2+B, part filled date numeral 2.

2.95) Gouby 1921B, Freeman 191, Dies 3+B. P2261

2.96) Gouby 1922A*, Freeman 192* Dies 3+B. Struck on flan containing a ferrous

metal, attracted strongly with magnet. Exceedingly Rare, Probably Unique.

2.97) Gouby 1926B, Freeman 195, Dies 4+B, P2265 Extremely Rare in this grade.

2.98) Gouby 1931A, Freeman 205, Dies 5+C. P2275

2.99) Gouby 1932A, Freeman 207, Dies 5+C. P2277

2.100) Gouby 1934A, Freeman 210, Dies 5+C. P2280

2.101) 1934 Freeman 210*, Dies 5+C, missing waves and rocks left of shield, Exceedingly rare and possibly Unique.

2.102) Gouby 1937P, Freeman 218, Proof Dies 1+A. P2401

2.103) Gouby 1937R, Freeman 220, Proof Dies 1+B. P2401B

2.104) Gouby 1937, Freeman 221, Dies 2+B.

2.105) Gouby 1938A, Freeman 222, Dies 2+B. P2402

2.106) Gouby 1939A, Freeman 224, Dies 2+B. P2404

2.107) Gouby 1944A, Freeman 229, Dies 2+C. P2409

2.108) Gouby 1946A, Freeman 233, Dies 2+C. P2413

2.109) Gouby 1946B, Freeman 233*, Dies 2+C, with die flaw after ONE’.

2.110) Gouby 1949A, Freeman 238, Dies 3+C. P2418

2.111) Gouby 1950A, Freeman 240, Dies 3+C. P2420

2.112) Gouby 1950P, Freeman 241, Proof Dies 3+C. P2421

2.113)Gouby 1951A, Freeman 242, Dies 3+C. P2422

2.114) Gouby 1951P, Freeman 243, Proof Dies 3+C. P2423

2.115) Gouby 1953P, Freeman 246, Proof Dies 1+B. P2503

2.116) Gouby 1966J, This is a mule of a Jersey penny obverse and a British reverse. Extremely Rare.

2.117) Gouby 1965N, Freeman 255*, Dies 3+H. Struck on an undersized CuproNickel flan. Exceedingly Rare.

2.118) Gouby 1966N, Freeman 256*, Dies 3+I, Struck on an undersized CuproNickel flan.

2.119) Gouby 1967F, Struck on a thick heavy flan weighing 11.7929 grams. Exceedingly Rare.

2.120) Gouby 1967H, Struck on a thick heavy flan of CuproNickel weighing 12.3013 grams. Exceedingly Rare.

[1949threepence 3,367]

Thanks for the sneak preview, Bernie.

[davidrj 194]

2.101) 1934 Freeman 210*, Dies 5+C, missing waves and rocks left of shield, Exceedingly rare and possibly Unique.

Another one I've never heard of, be interested to see the pictures

Thanks for the info

David

[scott 144]

2.94) Freeman 188*, Dies 2+B, part filled date numeral 2.

the 1920 filled 2?

that 1934 sounds interesting.

[Bernie 203]

2.101) 1934 Freeman 210*, Dies 5+C, missing waves and rocks left of shield, Exceedingly rare and possibly Unique.

Another one I've never heard of, be interested to see the pictures

Thanks for the info

David

I hope that this picture is clear enough,

[Bernie 203]

2.94) Freeman 188*, Dies 2+B, part filled date numeral 2.

the 1920 filled 2?

that 1934 sounds interesting.

And the 1920 filled 2,

[davidrj 194]

2.101) 1934 Freeman 210*, Dies 5+C, missing waves and rocks left of shield, Exceedingly rare and possibly Unique.

Another one I've never heard of, be interested to see the pictures

Thanks for the info

David

I hope that this picture is clear enough,

Thanks! Filled die????

[Rob 3,152]

Thanks! Filled die????

Nope, damaged die. The filled 2 is raised on the coin so must be incuse on the die. A bit has broken off the die at the inside angle of the 2, unless it is a bit of trapped metal which has attached itself to the flan. You don't have any relief perspective from the image.

Edited October 4, 2010 by Rob

[scott 144]

yes i have one of the filled 2's in average grade.

might have to look at my 34's again