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1860 farthing - mule or not?

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Hi, friends, found this coin in bulk lot, maybe is normal toothed border both sides, but please see image - maybe is beaded on obverse?

It is worn but please for your opinion.

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The mule has a toothed obverse and beaded reverse, so although yours is badly worn it cannot be the mule as the reverse is clearly toothed border.

John.

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Hi, thank you, my mistake - I did not know this...

That's why we all use the forum, for help and advice from others.

Regards,

John.

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Thank you John,

I will use this topic for another question about another 1860 farthing - coin has large dot (or other defect?) over first "I" in Victoria, also "I" in date is "I" over lower "I" - what is your opinion, it is common defects for this date or maybe some value over normal CV?

Thanks...

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Hi, thank you, my mistake - I did not know this...

Another thing to bear in mind : it's a strange quirk of the beaded border that until it's all but a featureless disc, a few beads will survive intact. It's extremely rare for a coin to be in your grade and not show a complete bead or few. That's another (not very scientific) way to tell them.

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Thank you John,

I will use this topic for another question about another 1860 farthing - coin has large dot (or other defect?) over first "I" in Victoria, also "I" in date is "I" over lower "I" - what is your opinion, it is common defects for this date or maybe some value over normal CV?

Thanks...

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Colin is more qualified than me to comment on Farthings. I have a large stock already as they are very slow sellers, so I tend not to bother looking at them when I attend auctions.

Freeman states that flaws and weak strikes are common on the 1860 obverses. I note that yours also has a flaw above the A of Victoria. The first flaw looks like an apostrophe so if it was a Penny you would probably have created a new variety!

The reverse is more interesting with the very badly re-cut linear circle and the 1 and 6 of the date both re-cut.

I don't think the flaws would increase the value, but they certainly increase the appeal to me. I like oddities and find them much more interesting than the other identical coins of the same date.

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John is right, if it were a penny it would become a variety, but it does look like some form of damage to the die. I do record these where possible just to get an idea of frequency and whether it is a progressive flaw.

The recut linear circle is quite a common feature on 1860 coins and is really bad on some of them :D

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