Non colllector would like help

[Guest satelite]

Hello everyone

Sorry I,m not a coin collector. My father inlaw has a coin he would like some info on. It looks like gold mounted in a pendant behind glass, so the coin looks like brand new.

Heres some pictures, its about 24mm dia

The date is 1887 and there is jeb stamped just below the queens head

dont know if thats enough info for you

Please ask for more if required to identify the coin

Thnx

[DaveG38 423]

Hello everyone

Sorry I,m not a coin collector. My father inlaw has a coin he would like some info on. It looks like gold mounted in a pendant behind glass, so the coin looks like brand new.

Heres some pictures, its about 24mm dia

The date is 1887 and there is jeb stamped just below the queens head

dont know if thats enough info for you

Please ask for more if required to identify the coin

Thnx

The coin is a jubilee head shilling, made of sterling silver, but if it is gold in colour, then its almost certainly been gold plated at some time. This date doesn't command very much value as many specimens were put away for the queen's golden jubilee. Also gold plating will detract for a true collector.

The only caveat I would place on this is other forum members, who know more than I do, may be aware of specimens of this date struck in gold. None of my sources suggest this, but I am always aware that all sorts of strikings and specimens suddenly turn up on here and somebody may know something I don't. If so, I'm sure they will post any information for you.

[azda 983]

Hello everyone

Sorry I,m not a coin collector. My father inlaw has a coin he would like some info on. It looks like gold mounted in a pendant behind glass, so the coin looks like brand new.

Heres some pictures, its about 24mm dia

The date is 1887 and there is jeb stamped just below the queens head

dont know if thats enough info for you

Please ask for more if required to identify the coin

Thnx

The coin is a jubilee head shilling, made of sterling silver, but if it is gold in colour, then its almost certainly been gold plated at some time. This date doesn't command very much value as many specimens were put away for the queen's golden jubilee. Also gold plating will detract for a true collector.

The only caveat I would place on this is other forum members, who know more than I do, may be aware of specimens of this date struck in gold. None of my sources suggest this, but I am always aware that all sorts of strikings and specimens suddenly turn up on here and somebody may know something I don't. If so, I'm sure they will post any information for you.

The weight might help indicate

[Peckris 579]

Hello everyone

Sorry I,m not a coin collector. My father inlaw has a coin he would like some info on. It looks like gold mounted in a pendant behind glass, so the coin looks like brand new.

Heres some pictures, its about 24mm dia

The date is 1887 and there is jeb stamped just below the queens head

dont know if thats enough info for you

Please ask for more if required to identify the coin

Thnx

The coin is a jubilee head shilling, made of sterling silver, but if it is gold in colour, then its almost certainly been gold plated at some time. This date doesn't command very much value as many specimens were put away for the queen's golden jubilee. Also gold plating will detract for a true collector.

The only caveat I would place on this is other forum members, who know more than I do, may be aware of specimens of this date struck in gold. None of my sources suggest this, but I am always aware that all sorts of strikings and specimens suddenly turn up on here and somebody may know something I don't. If so, I'm sure they will post any information for you.

The weight might help indicate

If it's just the standard shilling, and assuming it isn't gold plated (might just be the pendant glass) then it's in top condition. Don't get too excited - it's also the commonest Victorian silver coin. But still worth £25 to £50 in that condition. And worth having, for interest.

[Gary 7]

Judging from the pictures, which are not that good, this coin is very well preserved. There is an 1887 Proof shilling from the proof set but that was struck in silver. However there are examples of Proof Victorian pennies struck in gold so why not shillings! I cant find anything in my literature that mentions gold shillings though. I seem to remember that Rob is the shilling man, perhaps he's the one to contact.

One other point, maybe its the glass itself that is giving the gold appearence it seems to have a darkish tint. Is it possible to remove the coin and weigh it, would help a lot in determining wether its silver or not. Be carefull!

[Guest satelite]

Thank you for the very informative replies.

The coin is gold (in colour) so either gold or gold plated

I have borrowed a spink 2007 book. I can now see its a shilling and not a sixpence as first thought.

What are the two dimensions of a sixpence and a shilling ?

I will have to ask my father inlaw if he is willing to have to taken apart so we can measure the weight, sounds like its the only way we are going to be forsore what its made of.

Yes the pictures do not do the condition of the coin justice. tried several ways to get a better picture, but the glass is a couple of mil thick so reflex a lot.

[Gary 7]

sixpence has a diameter of 19mm and the shilling 23.5mm

[Peckris 579]

Yes the pictures do not do the condition of the coin justice. tried several ways to get a better picture, but the glass is a couple of mil thick so reflex a lot.

Don't worry about that - you can see enough to make out fine detail in places, showing it is in near mint or mint condition. Don't risk breaking the pendant - if it's simply the standard shilling, you will have lost its major individual point of interest.

[Coppers 58]

Yes the pictures do not do the condition of the coin justice. tried several ways to get a better picture, but the glass is a couple of mil thick so reflex a lot.

Don't worry about that - you can see enough to make out fine detail in places, showing it is in near mint or mint condition. Don't risk breaking the pendant - if it's simply the standard shilling, you will have lost its major individual point of interest.

Peckris is absolutely right. Breaking the pendant would be a mistake.

[azda 983]

I think the coin case is just screwed into place so it could possibly be easily removable, maybe take it to a jeweller if you are really wanting it out to check the weight

[moneyer12 0]

it is one of my pet hates when i see plated coins, why oh why destroy a beautiful coin just for the sake of it, unless it is to try and dupe some unsuspecting person into believing that the coin is gold.

[Peckris 579]

it is one of my pet hates when i see plated coins, why oh why destroy a beautiful coin just for the sake of it, unless it is to try and dupe some unsuspecting person into believing that the coin is gold.

If the "unsuspecting person" was a contemporary of the newly minted coin (which is why a lot of them were plated) then that gives the coin a reduced value (to us) but a certain historical interest. There was an entire cottage industry devoted to fooling people that a farthing or sixpence was a half sov. Risky though - it kept the hangman in business...