hi can anyone help

[Rob 3,152]

so would u say that someone has done it on perpose?, i brought it a a "coin dealer" for £120, think i was ripped off.

It is a £2 scrap coin which I would not entertain....why spend so much on a coin when you clearly have no knowledge....buy the books first.

When all's said and done, we've all paid too much for something with hindsight. Better to make a tit of yourself early on and learn from a mistake than find out 5 years down the line after many more such purchases. It isn't possible to over-emphasise the need to research a subject before diving in with both feet. £120 would have bought a handful of books new - double or more that number second-hand. With a bit of luck the seller may even have thrown in a low grade coin worth a couple of quid as a freebie if you indicated you were a novice just beginning to collect and wanted to learn. Most dealers will spend time with someone wanting to learn because it is their future income. Keep your mouth shut and it will be assumed that you know what you are doing, in which case the seller can reasaonably assume that you want to spend an amount of money on a particular coin.

[azda 979]

so would u say that someone has done it on perpose?, i brought it a a "coin dealer" for £120, think i was ripped off.

It is a £2 scrap coin which I would not entertain....why spend so much on a coin when you clearly have no knowledge....buy the books first.

When all's said and done, we've all paid too much for something with hindsight. Better to make a tit of yourself early on and learn from a mistake than find out 5 years down the line after many more such purchases. It isn't possible to over-emphasise the need to research a subject before diving in with both feet. £120 would have bought a handful of books new - double or more that number second-hand. With a bit of luck the seller may even have thrown in a low grade coin worth a couple of quid as a freebie if you indicated you were a novice just beginning to collect and wanted to learn. Most dealers will spend time with someone wanting to learn because it is their future income. Keep your mouth shut and it will be assumed that you know what you are doing, in which case the seller can reasaonably assume that you want to spend an amount of money on a particular coin.

Well said Rob, but what can be said for Martin Platts customers, every single one of them are paying over book for his coins, why?

Here's one example, he calls UNC, book price 575.......Price paid 705, there's just no logic to it

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230571142036&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D%2B230571142036%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

[Peter 615]

Ebay is the market place.

I still watch coins and still bid on my best price.

What I do not understand is you can pick up nice coins from dealers lists at a fraction of the price...hence I'm waiting for three coins which I will sell on Ebay

[Peter 615]

They have just landed...stunning I think I might keep them

[Peter 615]

a 1958 6d in bu,a1930 1d ditto and a gef 1878 1/4 absolute gems and for under £25 delivered....happy days

[scott 144]

lucky

here is a brokage i got off ebay about a year ago.

[coin fanatic 0]

hi all, been to see the bloke i brought the coin off today and i got my money back and i got to keep the coin too. now i have a 1841 farthing, now it looks like to me it has inverted v's as a's but im not that sure.

[Colin G. 147]

hi all, been to see the bloke i brought the coin off today and i got my money back and i got to keep the coin too. now i have a 1841 farthing, now it looks like to me it has inverted v's as a's but im not that sure.

This is quite a common feature throughout this series, and I am not personally convinced that they are actually an inverted letter V. On a vast majority there is evidence of of a horizontal bar at the edges which would indicate that the horizontal bar on the die was filled with crud.

On other examples there is an underlying A which looks like it has been repunched with an inverted V to strengthen/recut the underlying worn letter A. This can only be seen on high grade examples so it is difficult to determine which type you have on lower grade coins.

Bet you wished you had never asked now

[coin fanatic 0]

lol, i know the coin is in a poor condition. so it is hard to see if it is or is'nt.

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

i do have a book but it didnt meansion anything in there about errors, thats why i asked. And u learn by your mistakes. cheers

You must stay strong, Luke, ignore the braying hordes( even if they are 100% correct) and follow your own path.

But definitely get your money back on that one.

[declanwmagee 122]

...and please don't hold your coins like that!

Finger prints tend to be permanent...hold them by the edge as if they were made of rice paper

[coin fanatic 0]

...and please don't hold your coins like that!

Finger prints tend to be permanent...hold them by the edge as if they were made of rice paper

ooopppsssssssss thanx for that i forgot to put my glove on, thanx again

[VickySilver 836]

Hey, wait you must bed a dealer-in-training holding coins like that; now all you have to do is learn how to drop them after sneezing on them.LOL!

[coin fanatic 0]

Hey, wait you must bed a dealer-in-training holding coins like that; now all you have to do is learn how to drop them after sneezing on them.LOL!

lol vickysilver

[Peckris 579]

so would u say that someone has done it on perpose?, i brought it a a "coin dealer" for £120, think i was ripped off.

It is a £2 scrap coin which I would not entertain....why spend so much on a coin when you clearly have no knowledge....buy the books first.

i do have a book but it didnt meansion anything in there about errors, thats why i asked. And u learn by your mistakes. cheers

That's an expensive mistake! I wouldn't spend £20 unless I knew what I was buying. As Rob says, you're better off investing in some books.

so would u say that someone has done it on perpose?, i brought it a a "coin dealer" for £120, think i was ripped off.

It is a £2 scrap coin which I would not entertain....why spend so much on a coin when you clearly have no knowledge....buy the books first.

When all's said and done, we've all paid too much for something with hindsight. Better to make a tit of yourself early on and learn from a mistake than find out 5 years down the line after many more such purchases. It isn't possible to over-emphasise the need to research a subject before diving in with both feet. £120 would have bought a handful of books new - double or more that number second-hand. With a bit of luck the seller may even have thrown in a low grade coin worth a couple of quid as a freebie if you indicated you were a novice just beginning to collect and wanted to learn. Most dealers will spend time with someone wanting to learn because it is their future income. Keep your mouth shut and it will be assumed that you know what you are doing, in which case the seller can reasaonably assume that you want to spend an amount of money on a particular coin.

Good advice

(Oh shoot. A second page ALREADY???)

Edited January 11, 2011 by Peckris

[RobJ 0]

It looks like it may not be a partial brockage, but may be the reult of a bit of post mint trickery. I have seen similar coins made to look like a brockage by squeezing one coin against another in a vice. The result is that the coin gets damaged/thinner at that point, the edge gets damaged and the design on the other side of the coin gets weakened by being squashed (which in a true brockage should not happen)

I am by no means an expert on errors, but that would have been my first impression on that one.

I think you're right, Colin. the font, although reversed, looks more like that from post 1860 bronze than the BRITT on that 1848 farthing.

If it was a brockage, it would have been pressed against an identical coin...

damn we're good

That you are Declan and Colin.

I bow to your superior knowledge.

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

Well, he got his money back, so alls well that ends well.

The forum has prevailed over the forces of darkness once more.

[azda 979]

Yes he has got His Cash back, but Let's Look At it this way, the Dealer that Sold him the coin obviously tried to rip him off, If he wasn't, then why give him Hus Cash back plus gets to keep the coin, personally i find it scandalous that the dealer did that, but an object lesson, he knew he was a New collector

[coin fanatic 0]

hi azda, i dont even think he is a new dealer as i was told by a friend of mine today that he is a scammer and he is being watched as he has ripped loads a people off before xmas.

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

personally i find it scandalous that the dealer did that, but an object lesson, he knew he was a New collector

Sadly, I don't, I expect it nowdays.

However, hopefully the object lesson will have been learned and we can add another collector to our ranks.

[azda 979]

Coin fanatic, i meant you As a New collector and not the Dealer

[coin fanatic 0]

Coin fanatic, i meant you As a New collector and not the Dealer

sorry mate, its me being thick lol