Slabbed values

[ski 1]

Should maybe get it slabbed and add 200 quid to its value

i think that only works if your london coins and are selling.....but then again recent ebay sales may prove otherwise

still it may be worth a tenner to preserve the lustre, keep it that way and to hell with what cgs grade it as. in 150 years your great/great/great grandchildren can always bust the slab open

[scott 144]

meh slabs, i would lony slab by special coins,for identification purposes

[azda 979]

meh slabs, i would lony slab by special coins,for identification purposes

Let's not get into the slab debate, 400 will be swinging from the attic rafters if we did lol

[ski 1]

coming back to the london coin auction slabbed section (very quickly before 400 hurts himself), i dont think a seperate slabbed section is anything new for them, the earliest catalogue i have for them immediatly to hand is march 2010 and theres a seperate section there.

400.....you can come down now

[Red Riley 2]

I believe it was actually the Royal Mint that coined the term 'BU'....without really meaning to. In the 80s their annual sets of coins in folders were suddenly marketed as 'Brilliant Uncirculated' and that caught on to mean an UNC coin with full lutre.

It was certainly about before then. I remember it back to the 1960s but it's never really had any official standing which makes me think it's a comparatively recent phenomenon. I wonder if an (even) older coiny than me has any recollection?

[TomGoodheart 400]

I believe it was actually the Royal Mint that coined the term 'BU'....without really meaning to. In the 80s their annual sets of coins in folders were suddenly marketed as 'Brilliant Uncirculated' and that caught on to mean an UNC coin with full lutre.

It was certainly about before then. I remember it back to the 1960s but it's never really had any official standing which makes me think it's a comparatively recent phenomenon. I wonder if an (even) older coiny than me has any recollection?

Seaby's 10th Ed (1960) jumps straight from Unc to FDC. Whereas Elizabeth Gilzean's 'Coins - A Collector's Guide' (1968) mentions 75% EF, UNC (bag marks but nowt else), BU and then 100% FDC (perfect mint state) so I'm wondering if it slipped into common usage somewhere in between the two dates?

By 1970 when Finn & Dowle's Coins For Pleasure and Investment was published they state that Unc is a modern term and means a coin that is perfect to the naked eye and that BU is only really useful when referring to copper or bronze. Interestingly they refer to FDC as an alternative to Unc.

All a bit imprecise it seem to me!

Edited February 23, 2011 by TomGoodheart

[Red Riley 2]

Seaby's 10th Ed (1960) jumps straight from Unc to FDC. Whereas Elizabeth Gilzean's 'Coins - A Collector's Guide' (1968) mentions 75% EF, UNC (bag marks but nowt else), BU and then 100% FDC (perfect mint state) so I'm wondering if it slipped into common usage somewhere in between the two dates?

By 1970 when Finn & Dowle's Coins For Pleasure and Investment was published they state that Unc is a modern term and means a coin that is perfect to the naked eye and that BU is only really useful when referring to copper or bronze. Interestingly they refer to FDC as an alternative to Unc.

All a bit imprecise it seem to me!

I had this vague recollection of hearing somewhere that the original grades were poor, fair, fine, very fine, extremely fine and that was it. I guess the ancients of coin collecting were more concerned with eye appeal than with slight wear to Britannia's fingers. It might also suggest that the definition of EF has become less stringent over time.

[davidrj 194]

Forget BU rainbow toning is the way to go!

David

[Cerbera100 0]

Oh dear oh dear... what is the world coming to!

Does anyone else think that the colours look artificially/digitally enhanced?!

[azda 979]

The yanks Love that crap, but i have to say, the seller is fairly optimistic with the price lol, get a life people

[£400 for a Penny ? 0]

That takes the biscuit, bears the bell away.

That is comfortably the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in my life.

$575 ?

Is it too early for a drink.....

[azda 979]

That takes the biscuit, bears the bell away.

That is comfortably the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in my life.

$575 ?

Is it too early for a drink.....

No No 400, you go ahead and have a drink. I've emailed the seller asking if there was a mistake in the listing price, i think they probably meant $5,75 and not $575 for a coin thats been artificially toned, lets see what or IF they reply

[Red Riley 2]

Oh dear oh dear... what is the world coming to!

Does anyone else think that the colours look artificially/digitally enhanced?!

Petrol?................. Check

Oily rag?............... Check

Worthless coin?......... Check

[Accumulator 52]

Oh dear oh dear... what is the world coming to!

Does anyone else think that the colours look artificially/digitally enhanced?!

Petrol?................. Check

Oily rag?............... Check

Worthless coin?......... Check

"This is a chance that comes up once every lifetime... if you're lucky!"

Yes indeed... The chance to make the most idiotic purchase of a completely worthless piece of junk for a totally ridiculous sum of money.

[Accumulator 52]

AND...

It's not even slabbed!!!

[azda 979]

Oh dear oh dear... what is the world coming to!

Does anyone else think that the colours look artificially/digitally enhanced?!

Petrol?................. Check

Oily rag?............... Check

Worthless coin?......... Check

Just don't strike a match or smoke around your purchase, it may go up in flames

[VickySilver 830]

If you have a taste for such, look up seller Greattoning on www.ebay.com sometime!!!He says he only buys them that way....

BTW, I once addressed this on another forum and was nearly tarred and feathered for my efforts in pointing out that this wild toning, at least to my knowledge, was virtually unknown prior to some 20 years ago.

Common date Morgan Dollars sometimes bring in the thousands if wildly toned. The controversy pits those thinking "artificially toned" (AT) against the "naturally toned" (NT) posters..

[RLC35 288]

FYI...At least one Yankee doesn't like the "Rainbow Toning"...me! LOL! I think the sellar is Canadian. <ggg>.

[davidrj 194]

Next time you put a pair of pants in the washing machine, put some nice shiny bronze coins from change or 1967 pennies in the pockets first.

Go to US Ebay and make your fortune

David

[ski 1]

a rare variety bu/unc lustreous rainbow toned bun head penny..........slabbed, all warapped up in a pair of my shreddies......gotta be worth zillions .

ive seen alot of fine and maybe vf vicky silver on ebay lately thats soo bright and shiny, i wonder if these sellers realise what their doing to their coins. the same items seem to come up for relisting, so i guess no one is fooled...... fortunatly.

[azda 979]

FYI...At least one Yankee doesn't like the "Rainbow Toning"...me! LOL! I think the sellar is Canadian. <ggg>.

You're Part Brit Bob, so you don't Count As a Yankee. What is it with this shite crazy toning craze they have in the US of A, No coin tones naturally like that in such a short space of time, No wonder Americas oil usage is so high

[scott 144]

yes but yanks go for "natural" toning more on silver, i do like a nice bit of toning on my silvers though, if anything to show it is of that age.

Edited February 24, 2011 by scott

[RLC35 288]

FYI...At least one Yankee doesn't like the "Rainbow Toning"...me! LOL! I think the sellar is Canadian. <ggg>.

You're Part Brit Bob, so you don't Count As a Yankee. What is it with this shite crazy toning craze they have in the US of A, No coin tones naturally like that in such a short space of time, No wonder Americas oil usage is so high

Azda, They can call it toning if they want too...but to me it is just tarnish! <gggg>. For some reason certain collectors do prefer it, but I don't know why!

[azda 979]

Yes, but lets Be honest here Bob, its not worth an extra $574 for it, if it were i'd Be out buying petrol daily and selling My shite across the pond toned and making millions. Are people so stupid to actually buy a coin worth 1 pound for near 600 bucks just because some numpty pours a bit of petrol over it.

Must have more money than sense over there, a fool and their money are soon parted

[Gary 7]

Forget BU rainbow toning is the way to go!

David

He also writes "It has only been out of its proof case to be photographed." ! Has anyone tried to remove coins from the proof sets without wrecking the holder! If this coin was still in the Proof set then the other coins would be toned too and would sell for a lower figure than a set with perfect coins. This coin is imperfect full stop....