1827 Penny

[Accumulator 52]

I Just took a punt on this BIN purchase. Have paid my £1

Be interesting to see if it arrives.

[Coppers 58]

I Just took a punt on this BIN purchase. Have paid my £1

Be interesting to see if it arrives.

Looks like he has the other two at £550.00 and £595.00. I wonder if he posted the wrong price or had intended that this coin start off at £1 without the buy-it-now option.

[scott 144]

£6 postage puts people off no end

[SionGilbey 1]

I Just took a punt on this BIN purchase. Have paid my £1

Be interesting to see if it arrives.

and £6 postage!

[SionGilbey 1]

£6 postage puts people off no end

Beat me to it.

[Rob 3,152]

£6 postage puts people off no end

Why?

If you are going to purchase items that are going to cost more than the statutory compensation limit of 100x first class postage, then it is reasonable to insure against loss. OK, in this case it looks like a case of a balls up in the listing because you can't expect the £1 BIN to be intended, but if the price had been listed at a reasonable level, then to cover both seller and buyer against loss or claimed loss would not be outrageous given special delivery is £5.05 up to £500 compensation. It's only excessive if you charge SD postal rates for crap items of minimal value.

[scott 144]

because bidders on a budget would have to consider it, i know i have to and some postage prices are there to "bump up the price"

[Peter 615]

I bet Mr Torcoins mouth has just gone dry and a cold sweat has ensued.

[Rob 3,152]

because bidders on a budget would have to consider it, i know i have to and some postage prices are there to "bump up the price"

Bidders on a limitetd budget wouldn't realistically expect to buy an 1827 1d for a quid or even to be in the running to buy one at all. It's horses for courses. Presumably you wouldn't complain that you had bought a coin too cheaply and if a coin got lost in the post that wasn't insured you would also have to take the loss on the chin. There are two parties to every transaction and both have interests that need to be considered. I send everything out at least signed for. If I didn't then buyers could make a claim on their credit card against me for non shipment of a paid for item and I would end up footing the bill. In the case of Paypal it is even worse because the seller is automatically the guilty party and so there is an even greater incentive to cover your backside.

[TomGoodheart 402]

Mmm ... looks like a listing mistake to me too. Any correspondence from the seller yet?

As for the sick squid, it's fine if a coin is sent by Special Delivery since that just covers postage and a 'jiffy' envelope. For coins not worth insuring I'd always offer a Recorded alternative. And if I buy something I really don't want lost and SD isn't offered I've never had anyone refuse to use it if I covered the additional cost.

This is a coin I suspect you'll want insured!

Edited February 25, 2011 by TomGoodheart

[azda 979]

I Just took a punt on this BIN purchase. Have paid my £1

Be interesting to see if it arrives.

You've probably just bought the 595 example, wonder how many emails are going to ensue and will you leave him a negative when the different than the picture coin arrives lol?

What would you grade this one at?

[SionGilbey 1]

I Just took a punt on this BIN purchase. Have paid my £1

Be interesting to see if it arrives.

You've probably just bought the 595 example, wonder how many emails are going to ensue and will you leave him a negative when the different than the picture coin arrives lol?

What would you grade this one at?

Ruddy heck that's a hard one.

I'd say fine, maybe Good Fine.

[azda 979]

I Just took a punt on this BIN purchase. Have paid my £1

Be interesting to see if it arrives.

You've probably just bought the 595 example, wonder how many emails are going to ensue and will you leave him a negative when the different than the picture coin arrives lol?

What would you grade this one at?

Ruddy heck that's a hard one.

I'd say fine, maybe Good Fine.

Lol Sion, but rare as hens teeth and Spink has a 200 quid value on a FINE I'd say Fine/Fine+ meself

[argentumandcoins 70]

I Just took a punt on this BIN purchase. Have paid my £1

Be interesting to see if it arrives.

I have to be honest and say that if I had ersed up a listing like that there is no way on Gods earth that I would honour the transaction.

He will have been very lucky to have bought it at less than £120, so a £119.50 loss (taking account of selling and paypal fees) is far too bitter a pill to swallow.

I'd take the negative feedback without even blinking!

[Accumulator 52]

I've had no e-mails from the seller yet.

It's a bit of a 'moral maze' situation from both points of view. I'm not out to ruin anyone's day though. I wonder what others would do?

I'd say that was GF Azda, so would expect to pay around £300 for it.

[argentumandcoins 70]

I've had no e-mails from the seller yet.

It's a bit of a 'moral maze' situation from both points of view. I'm not out to ruin anyone's day though. I wonder what others would do?

I'd say that was GF Azda, so would expect to pay around £300 for it.

The paramedics are probably still trying resus after cutting him down

[Peckris 579]

My betting (I hope it's not true) is that he will not post it, will claim that he did, will refund your £7, then quietly rephotograph and relist in a few months.

[Peter 615]

Offer and acceptance and the other scenario of caveat emptor.

This will be interesting.

If I were Torcoins I would honour it...you have ample time to check your listing before uploading and if you don't check an expensive coin then suffer you must.

[SionGilbey 1]

Is it worth £600 to avoid a negative feedback?

[Accumulator 52]

Have received a message this morning:

"hi there sorry this item was wrongly listed sorry to waste your time,i have relisted the item as it should be once again i am sorry"

No mention of the fact that I have paid for it and that legally it is mine! As I say, I'm not out to ruin anyone's day but there's a right and wrong way to deal with your mistakes. Hope I'm not coming across as awkward but at least some recognition of my payment wouldn't come amiss.

[Peter 615]

It is his mistake...the way he has acted is pathetic.

Report him to Ebay.

I once won a GVF gothic florin for £10 as England were playing in the world cup & yes he claimed he had misplaced it.

[Fubar 80]

"Caveat venditor" must apply, surely.

[azda 979]

Have received a message this morning:

"hi there sorry this item was wrongly listed sorry to waste your time,i have relisted the item as it should be once again i am sorry"

No mention of the fact that I have paid for it and that legally it is mine! As I say, I'm not out to ruin anyone's day but there's a right and wrong way to deal with your mistakes. Hope I'm not coming across as awkward but at least some recognition of my payment wouldn't come amiss.

Yes, well i'd be emailing and asking for the cash etc, how much is it listed for now?

Edited February 26, 2011 by azda

[Accumulator 52]

It's re-listed for £495.

I know that legally he is on a hiding to nothing. As mentioned above, regardless of eBay, it comes under the standard contract law of offer & acceptance. By re-listing the coin he is making things worse. If he sells it to another party he then places himself in the position of having to 'make good' to me which could cost an awful lot more. My expensive London law firm is standing by

Seriously, I'm not going to fleece him but I think it warrants a 'discussion' at least.

[TomGoodheart 402]

Have received a message this morning:

"hi there sorry this item was wrongly listed sorry to waste your time,i have relisted the item as it should be once again i am sorry"

No mention of the fact that I have paid for it and that legally it is mine! As I say, I'm not out to ruin anyone's day but there's a right and wrong way to deal with your mistakes. Hope I'm not coming across as awkward but at least some recognition of my payment wouldn't come amiss.

I would definitely contact ebay. They offer phone support now. I'd politely explain that you bought the item and paid for it and just leave it for them to say something in response.

If he'd been more effusive with the apology then I'd be more generous. But if someone just relists then that's rude. I'd pursue him just for the hell of it! (Aren't I nasty!?!)

And of course, let us know how you get on!!

Edited February 26, 2011 by TomGoodheart