Chris, may i just ask...

[Half Penny Jon 0]

It is not at all that severe at my school. I like to compare it to the 'crabs in the bucket' story. If a crab trys to escape the bucket, another crab will always pull him back and cut off one of his legs every time he trys to escape. Basically, if you suceed in a comp then people will always try to bring you down to their level and stop you from suceeding.

[Master Jmd 80]

Sorry, double posted!

It is not at all that severe at my school. I like to compare it to the 'crabs in the bucket' story. If a crab trys to escape the bucket, another crab will always pull him back and cut off one of his legs every time he trys to escape. Basically, if you suceed in a comp then people will always try to bring you down to their level and stop you from suceeding.

Sorry, double posted!

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[Half Penny Jon 0]

My broadband is playing up, the first time I double posted, it took a long time to process the post so I just clicked 'back' and 'post' on both occasions!

[Chris Perkins 228]

Grammer schools are right for some people but at the end of the day, it is you and only you who can determine how sucessful you are. I can understand some people's concerns about public schools and I can see that it is the unfortunate majority who will be wiping the streets with their own failure. There is however the sucessful minority who do not muck around and who just get on with it and get great results. I would rather go to my school than a comprehensive because the staff are absolutly great, and you can reach your potential sucessfully without paying for it.

It's all very well, of course it's down to yourself mainly, and the teachers and school infrastructure just play a part in helping you out. There are of course many children that from the word go seem quite bad at everything and destined for some form of manual labour, or worse still, a life of crime! A few of my mates went down the wrong path and ended up that way. One of them's an alchoholic now, another is in prison and another is dead. I no longer associate myself with the two alive ones!

I went to a comp, as I've mentioned before, and I mucked around like a bastard. In some lessons I was very rebelious, others not so. Although I couldn't have been that bad, I was in the top groups for science, maths, english and french. I was awful at doing course work, never handed it in within a reasonable time, and what I did hand in was just rushed and awful.

I have always been good at taking written tests, and it was mainly my aptitude for written tests that got me into college. I know I could have done much much better....But I had lots of fun, and if I ever want more bits of paper there's always OU, so it's not so bad!

Even if like me, you're not particularly academic, I believe if you've got the balls and the right attitude then you will do alright no matter how many exams you've passed and regardless of your level of education.

[Sylvester 15]

Yes, exactly...the nearest comprehencive school to my house is a school where the teachers are beaten up by the pupils because they did not let them take drugs during lessons...(seriously, i have had a tour around there)!!!

Wow this sounds like our local grammar school...

My mates from Uni went there... a quarter of their year now have babies, a number of their year was also made up of pupils that were expelled from our Comp school, including 2 drug addicts, actually i don't think they were druggies when they left ours , i think they became them at the grammar school which is considerably rougher than the comp and much much bigger.

My high school only had about 760 pupils when i was there, the grammar was about 3 times that as the catchment area was also most of Barnsley. Our school's catchment are was our town and a few other small places in the north of Sheffield.

As our school had no sixth form the real bright sparks went to the posher grammars in the South West of Sheffield after they had done their GCSEs.

And about the bus fares... About 13 years ago the child bus fare was about 10p single (may have been 5p actually, i do remember 5p bus fares very very vaguely... back in the days of the big 5ps), in about 1995/6 it went to 15p, 1997ish to about 20p very briefly, then it went to 25p a few months later. By 1998/9 it had risen to 30p, when i started going to college in 2000 it was 33p it stayed like that for about 2 years and then went to 35p, last year it went to 40p... I don't think the prices have gone up again yet in my neck of the woods but in the next 6 months or so 45p/50p wouldn't surprise me.

I'm just amazed at how fast they are going up...

[Half Penny Jon 0]

When I ask my fellow pupils what job they think that they will end up in, most of them say some sort of manual labour, or going to college. I think they all care about their future. It is just a case of some more than others. I hope to become a barrister, and I will therefore have to work exceedingly hard. If you wanna do it, do it!

[Chris Perkins 228]

And about the bus fares... About 13 years ago the child bus fare was about 10p single (may have been 5p actually, i do remember 5p bus fares very very vaguely... back in the days of the big 5ps), in about 1995/6 it went to 15p, 1997ish to about 20p very briefly, then it went to 25p a few months later. By 1998/9 it had risen to 30p, when i started going to college in 2000 it was 33p it stayed like that for about 2 years and then went to 35p, last year it went to 40p... I don't think the prices have gone up again yet in my neck of the woods but in the next 6 months or so 45p/50p wouldn't surprise me.

I'm just amazed at how fast they are going up...

What riveting stuff about the recent history of bus fares in the Sheffield area!

I can feel a new book on the horizon, 'Bus fares and their History', by Sylvester.

(Sorry mate, but that was the most trainspotting paragraph on this whole forum!)

[Sylvester 15]

Well i haven't got a clue what i want to do yet... I did want to be a teacher but since i've come to the conclusion i really don't like children very much, that and train drivers get paid more... i really can't see myself doing that for a living, hardly any job fulfilment there.

So what i'm gonna do now is beyond me at this present moment in time.

[Master Jmd 80]

So what i'm gonna do now is beyond me at this present moment in time.

A coin dealer? (just a suggestion)

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I am lucky with the bus fares, there are 5 stops that each cost fifty pence, including the 'next stop'!...i get off at the fourth stop, so i suppose it is not too bad though...

Edited June 15, 2004 by Master Jmd

[Sylvester 15]

What riveting stuff about the recent history of bus fares in the Sheffield area!

I can feel a new book on the horizon, 'Bus fares and their History', by Sylvester.

(Sorry mate, but that was the most trainspotting paragraph on this whole forum!)

[Half Penny Jon 0]

I did want to be a teacher but since i've come to the conclusion i really don't like children very much,

I can understand your duslike for children. Some of them are just complete bast**ds, some of them are ok though (like us).

[Master Jmd 80]

I did want to be a teacher but since i've come to the conclusion i really don't like children very much,

I can understand your duslike for children. Some of them are just complete bast**ds, some of them are ok though (like us).

yes...i would say that there are four types of child:

1) The teachers pets. (the top of the class know-it-all's)

2) The normal kids. (us)

3) The mongrols. (if i can still be politicaly correct by saying mongrols)

4) The Bast**ds. (The Bast**ds)

[Emperor Oli 0]

Your fares are so cheap! A friend of mine in the sixth form has to pay, everyday, for about an 8-mile journey return.............£4.70!

JMD, mongrels are half breeds, what do you mean by this?

[william 0]

The fares for my grammar school are......................nothing! I'm going to walk half a mile to school

[Sylvester 15]

West Yorkshire fares are cheap. Well the train fares are the bus fares are not so.

South Yorkshire Fares are far more expensive. I do believe it's about £1.50 just to go from Sheffield to Meadowhall, that's a 5 minute journey of one stop.

[Half Penny Jon 0]

Brentwood Bus fares are generally expensive, on average it is £1.50 for a return and £0.90 for a one way ticket.

[Sylvester 15]

Actually i believe that GMPTE area fares are about the same, i travelled from Marple (well Romiley, but the fare is the same) to Manchester regular, it was about £2.10 for a GM Rail Ranger (or is it a GM Day Rover now?)

It'll have gone up to about £2.60 or so now, but for unlimited travel on all trains in the GM area and on the Metrolink in the Central Zone it's not bad value there.

[Half Penny Jon 0]

I think it is about £2.10 for a 'all London zones' one day travelcard.

[Sylvester 15]

Brentwood Bus fares are generally expensive, on average it is £1.50 for a return and £0.90 for a one way ticket.

Are you the one who's further south? If so then nothing surprises me down there, it's much more expensive, but the wages are better... So it probably levels out in reality.

But the bright sparks are the ones that are just about comfortably off in the South East and then they move north... you can buy a very big house up in the north for the prices a small one bedroom flat goes for in the SE.

And if you move to Bradford you can buy a mansion with much less, or a WHOLE row of houses for less than £120,000.

I've seen houses advertised for sale in Bradford go for about £25,000 in some areas. Some areas in Sheffield aren't far behind in the 30 thou area if you are on the run down East side (David Blunkett's local constituency) with the ethnic mino... majorities live.

[Emperor Oli 0]

There was a whole street in Newcastle that went for wait for it.......a fiver. It was sold at auction a while ago, if my memory serves.

[Sylvester 15]

There was a whole street in Newcastle that went for wait for it.......a fiver. It was sold at auction a while ago, if my memory serves.

Newcastle they're just giving the place away... and i bet they are having trouble!

Some areas are very rough there. Not a place i'd like to live i can tell you that for nothing!

[Master Jmd 80]

Your fares are so cheap! A friend of mine in the sixth form has to pay, everyday, for about an 8-mile journey return.............£4.70!

When one reaches the age of 18, the fares for my bus are £1.20, but knowing the ever-rising fares then it will probably be £2.00 for me...

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JMD, mongrels are half breeds, what do you mean by this?

I couldn't think of what else mongrels were commonly known as, that is why i didnt put half-breeds...

[Sylvester 15]

When one reaches the age of 18, the fares for my bus are £1.20, but knowing the ever-rising fares then it will probably be £2.00 for me...

it's 16 where we are...

[Master Jmd 80]

When one reaches the age of 18, the fares for my bus are £1.20, but knowing the ever-rising fares then it will probably be £2.00 for me...

it's 16 where we are...

it might be that here...i just thought that an adult fare would be for the 18 y.o. and up!

[Guest Ken_I'm_a_Guest]

Your fares are so cheap!  A friend of mine in the sixth form has to pay, everyday, for about an 8-mile journey return.............£4.70!

When one reaches the age of 18, the fares for my bus are £1.20, but knowing the ever-rising fares then it will probably be £2.00 for me...

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JMD, mongrels are half breeds, what do you mean by this?

I couldn't think of what else mongrels were commonly known as, that is why i didnt put half-breeds...

I do hope your use of the word 'Mongrel' doesn't imply that mixed race children are somehow less than human.

I don't support political correctness either but my children are half Japanese half English and words like that can be very hurtful although I'm sure you didn't mean it that way please be careful.Thanks.