Oddities and Curiosities

[SionGilbey 1]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

[Peckris 579]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?

[SionGilbey 1]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?

Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?

Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny )

Does it have anything wrong with the edge?

[Peckris 579]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?

Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?

Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny )

Does it have anything wrong with the edge?

It looks and feels exactly like any 1967 penny (definitely the right planchet, metal, etc). And you're quite right - who'd forge one of they? You'd only notice something wrong if you dropped it on a surface - instead of ringing, it clacks. The only I've not done is weigh it, but I don't have a set of they sensitive coin weigh thingies.

[SionGilbey 1]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?

Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?

Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny )

Does it have anything wrong with the edge?

It looks and feels exactly like any 1967 penny (definitely the right planchet, metal, etc). And you're quite right - who'd forge one of they? You'd only notice something wrong if you dropped it on a surface - instead of ringing, it clacks. The only I've not done is weigh it, but I don't have a set of they sensitive coin weigh thingies.

I picked a little scales up off the net for £2 and a pound postage new, expecting nothing more than a rough estimate, but the beauty is accurate to 0.01 of a gram

[Peckris 579]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?

Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?

Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny )

Does it have anything wrong with the edge?

It looks and feels exactly like any 1967 penny (definitely the right planchet, metal, etc). And you're quite right - who'd forge one of they? You'd only notice something wrong if you dropped it on a surface - instead of ringing, it clacks. The only I've not done is weigh it, but I don't have a set of they sensitive coin weigh thingies.

I picked a little scales up off the net for £2 and a pound postage new, expecting nothing more than a rough estimate, but the beauty is accurate to 0.01 of a gram

Ooh that DOES sound a good bargain!

[DaveG38 405]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?

Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?

Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny )

Does it have anything wrong with the edge?

It looks and feels exactly like any 1967 penny (definitely the right planchet, metal, etc). And you're quite right - who'd forge one of they? You'd only notice something wrong if you dropped it on a surface - instead of ringing, it clacks. The only I've not done is weigh it, but I don't have a set of they sensitive coin weigh thingies.

Sounds top me as though the metal in the planchet is delaminating i.e. splitting internally along the flan.

[Peckris 579]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?

Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?

Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny )

Does it have anything wrong with the edge?

It looks and feels exactly like any 1967 penny (definitely the right planchet, metal, etc). And you're quite right - who'd forge one of they? You'd only notice something wrong if you dropped it on a surface - instead of ringing, it clacks. The only I've not done is weigh it, but I don't have a set of they sensitive coin weigh thingies.

Sounds top me as though the metal in the planchet is delaminating i.e. splitting internally along the flan.

Wouldn't there be some external evidence for that? Or do you think it could be something as simple as an air bubble?

[azda 979]

Brockage

[Rob 3,152]

Wouldn't there be some external evidence for that? Or do you think it could be something as simple as an air bubble?

There may or may not be. The decimal patterns of the late 1850s have a few varieties where lamination is the norm. Peck records all examined P1981 with this feature - something I am unable to dispute. The solitary F689 also has a laminating flan. In extremis, the result is that the coin separates along the edge leaving two halves. On the example below, there was clearly a large void within the flan as seen by the oxidised patches. The less oxidised area is all that held the two halves together, albeit tenuously.

[Cerbera100 0]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Hey! Thats my sideline patch! If too many people catch on that these things are interesting my buying prices will rocket - and my pocket wont like that very much!

I've got some pics of my favourite errors in my collection and will pop them up at the weekend! Oh - one of them is my new-fangled avatar thingy-whatsit!

[Gary D 76]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?

Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?

Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny )

Does it have anything wrong with the edge?

It looks and feels exactly like any 1967 penny (definitely the right planchet, metal, etc). And you're quite right - who'd forge one of they? You'd only notice something wrong if you dropped it on a surface - instead of ringing, it clacks. The only I've not done is weigh it, but I don't have a set of they sensitive coin weigh thingies.

Will look like this

[SionGilbey 1]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?

Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?

Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny )

Does it have anything wrong with the edge?

It looks and feels exactly like any 1967 penny (definitely the right planchet, metal, etc). And you're quite right - who'd forge one of they? You'd only notice something wrong if you dropped it on a surface - instead of ringing, it clacks. The only I've not done is weigh it, but I don't have a set of they sensitive coin weigh thingies.

Will look like this

I think he'd have noticed that!

[Peckris 579]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?

Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?

Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny )

Does it have anything wrong with the edge?

It looks and feels exactly like any 1967 penny (definitely the right planchet, metal, etc). And you're quite right - who'd forge one of they? You'd only notice something wrong if you dropped it on a surface - instead of ringing, it clacks. The only I've not done is weigh it, but I don't have a set of they sensitive coin weigh thingies.

Will look like this

I think he'd have noticed that!

I can definitely confirm I would have noticed that!

[Gary D 76]

I've taken a little interest in odd coins... mint errors, brockages, wrong flans, non recurring varieties etc.

Post pictures and we can speculate on error causes.

Sion

Ok, my first item is a 1967 penny that 'clacks' when you drop it. I COULD put a picture up but it looks just like any old boring 1967 penny! Nice grade, mind you, EF with traces of lustre, must be worth all of ... ooh, what shall we say, 99p plus postage?

Could it be on a similar penny planchet but for another country?

Is it a forgery made of another metal? (As if anyone would forge a 1967 penny )

Does it have anything wrong with the edge?

It looks and feels exactly like any 1967 penny (definitely the right planchet, metal, etc). And you're quite right - who'd forge one of they? You'd only notice something wrong if you dropped it on a surface - instead of ringing, it clacks. The only I've not done is weigh it, but I don't have a set of they sensitive coin weigh thingies.

Will look like this

I think he'd have noticed that!

I can definitely confirm I would have noticed that!

It was a normal looking 1967 penny when I first got it, apart from a faint crack along the edge.

[scott 144]

there must be something effecting the coin for it to change sound, has to be a planchet error

i got some nice filled die errors if anyone wants to see those, but for now.

clipped planchet penny

i also have another witch has the beginning of one (planchet thins at one end)

now that is a planchet crack

[Accumulator 52]

Heres my not even once in a lifetime opportunity to own a unique and rare and scarce and probably very scarce desirable special mule double headed two obverses extremely rare threepenny bit half a tanner very rare found in the attic of my great great grandmother who died many years ago but we only just cleaned out all her things but havent sorted them or had this valued and its from a pet free smoke free home so may be worth millions!!!

[argentumandcoins 70]

Heres my not even once in a lifetime opportunity to own a unique and rare and scarce and probably very scarce desirable special mule double headed two obverses extremely rare threepenny bit half a tanner very rare found in the attic of my great great grandmother who died many years ago but we only just cleaned out all her things but havent sorted them or had this valued and its from a pet free smoke free home so may be worth millions!!!

Rarer than a 20p no date genuine mint error no date either side.

Obviously worth an ebay buy it now of at least £250,000.

[Gary D 76]

Heres my not even once in a lifetime opportunity to own a unique and rare and scarce and probably very scarce desirable special mule double headed two obverses extremely rare threepenny bit half a tanner very rare found in the attic of my great great grandmother who died many years ago but we only just cleaned out all her things but havent sorted them or had this valued and its from a pet free smoke free home so may be worth millions!!!

Now that's something I'd like in my collection, I do like the brass 3d. Obviously not two observes put together as the writing on the back is writen backwards.

Edited April 7, 2011 by Gary D

[SionGilbey 1]

Heres my not even once in a lifetime opportunity to own a unique and rare and scarce and probably very scarce desirable special mule double headed two obverses extremely rare threepenny bit half a tanner very rare found in the attic of my great great grandmother who died many years ago but we only just cleaned out all her things but havent sorted them or had this valued and its from a pet free smoke free home so may be worth millions!!!

Now that's something I'd like in my collection, I do like the brass 3d. Obviously not two observes put together as the writing on the back is writen backwards.

Perhaps a rather good brockage? I don't know much about them...

[Cerbera100 0]

Nah... a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image (ie, the wrong way in hand)... if that make any sense, I'll eat my hat! They always say a piccy is worth a thousand words, so here goes!

1998-date penny

George III halfpenny

Viccy sixpence

Not brockages, but a couple of other oddities:

Double-struck 2p

Square and aluminium 5p

[SionGilbey 1]

Nah... a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image (ie, the wrong way in hand)... if that make any sense, I'll eat my hat! They always say a piccy is worth a thousand words, so here goes!

1998-date penny

George III halfpenny

Viccy sixpence

Not brockages, but a couple of other oddities:

Double-struck 2p

Square and aluminium 5p

"the writing on the back is writen backwards. "

Gary said that the back was the wrong way around... so this means it doesn't rule out the brockage - or confirms it?

Your square 5p is interesting, my theory is that as they fed the srip of metal into cutting machine and cut it to the right size, then fed it into the stamping machine, it for some reason failed to stamp out the blank and it was struck in it's odd square state.

It's a miracle it got through quality control (or maybe it did and a sneaky mint worker took a bag of dodgy ones home instead of to the melting pot )

[Gary D 76]

Nah... a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image (ie, the wrong way in hand)... if that make any sense, I'll eat my hat! They always say a piccy is worth a thousand words, so here goes!

1998-date penny

George III halfpenny

Viccy sixpence

Not brockages, but a couple of other oddities:

Double-struck 2p

Square and aluminium 5p

"the writing on the back is writen backwards. "

Gary said that the back was the wrong way around... so this means it doesn't rule out the brockage - or confirms it?

Your square 5p is interesting, my theory is that as they fed the srip of metal into cutting machine and cut it to the right size, then fed it into the stamping machine, it for some reason failed to stamp out the blank and it was struck in it's odd square state.

It's a miracle it got through quality control (or maybe it did and a sneaky mint worker took a bag of dodgy ones home instead of to the melting pot )

You guys can be really slow sometimes...The other side is seen in a mirror, mirrors alway show things in reverse hence the writing is reversed. Where's that shaking head sadly emoticon when you need it.

[SionGilbey 1]

Nah... a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image (ie, the wrong way in hand)... if that make any sense, I'll eat my hat! They always say a piccy is worth a thousand words, so here goes!

1998-date penny

George III halfpenny

Viccy sixpence

Not brockages, but a couple of other oddities:

Double-struck 2p

Square and aluminium 5p

"the writing on the back is writen backwards. "

Gary said that the back was the wrong way around... so this means it doesn't rule out the brockage - or confirms it?

Your square 5p is interesting, my theory is that as they fed the srip of metal into cutting machine and cut it to the right size, then fed it into the stamping machine, it for some reason failed to stamp out the blank and it was struck in it's odd square state.

It's a miracle it got through quality control (or maybe it did and a sneaky mint worker took a bag of dodgy ones home instead of to the melting pot )

You guys can be really slow sometimes...The other side is seen in a mirror, mirrors alway show things in reverse hence the writing is reversed. Where's that shaking head sadly emoticon when you need it.

I didn't see the picture... and I was quoting you on the "written backwards" bit.

If you're referring to "a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image" he was referring to the terminology for the tails side of the coin.

Or am I being slow again?

[Gary D 76]

Nah... a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image (ie, the wrong way in hand)... if that make any sense, I'll eat my hat! They always say a piccy is worth a thousand words, so here goes!

1998-date penny

George III halfpenny

Viccy sixpence

Not brockages, but a couple of other oddities:

Double-struck 2p

Square and aluminium 5p

"the writing on the back is writen backwards. "

Gary said that the back was the wrong way around... so this means it doesn't rule out the brockage - or confirms it?

Your square 5p is interesting, my theory is that as they fed the srip of metal into cutting machine and cut it to the right size, then fed it into the stamping machine, it for some reason failed to stamp out the blank and it was struck in it's odd square state.

It's a miracle it got through quality control (or maybe it did and a sneaky mint worker took a bag of dodgy ones home instead of to the melting pot )

You guys can be really slow sometimes...The other side is seen in a mirror, mirrors alway show things in reverse hence the writing is reversed. Where's that shaking head sadly emoticon when you need it.

I didn't see the picture... and I was quoting you on the "written backwards" bit.

If you're referring to "a brockage should have the reverse facing the right way in the mirror image" he was referring to the terminology for the tails side of the coin.

Or am I being slow again?

The coin has two heads so I couldn't call the image in the mirror it's reverse without complicating things. Anyway if it was a brockage the reflection would read correctly in the mirror.