William & Mary Pattern Farthings or Medalets

[joey 0]

G'day All

I am wondering if anyone can enlighten me on what would cause the extra metal on the neck of Mary on these copper W&M farthing/medalets.I have seen 7 of these and 4 of the 7 have the extra metal on the neck of Mary.Of the photos attached 1a & 1ac are the same coin and seem to have the biggest piece of metal of the ones I have seen.The other 1dc not quite as much and the other two,one on COINSGB forum & one in Colin Cooke's collection, less still,but is definitely there.Hope someone has some ideas.

[argentumandcoins 70]

G'day All

I am wondering if anyone can enlighten me on what would cause the extra metal on the neck of Mary on these copper W&M farthing/medalets.I have seen 7 of these and 4 of the 7 have the extra metal on the neck of Mary.Of the photos attached 1a & 1ac are the same coin and seem to have the biggest piece of metal of the ones I have seen.The other 1dc not quite as much and the other two,one on COINSGB forum & one in Colin Cooke's collection, less still,but is definitely there.Hope someone has some ideas.

Welcome Joey.

The extra metal in the same place and varying amount on different examples suggests a progressive die flaw (starts small and increases in size until the die eventually fractures or is discarded).

[Colin G. 147]

G'day All

I am wondering if anyone can enlighten me on what would cause the extra metal on the neck of Mary on these copper W&M farthing/medalets.I have seen 7 of these and 4 of the 7 have the extra metal on the neck of Mary.Of the photos attached 1a & 1ac are the same coin and seem to have the biggest piece of metal of the ones I have seen.The other 1dc not quite as much and the other two,one on COINSGB forum & one in Colin Cooke's collection, less still,but is definitely there.Hope someone has some ideas.

I would agree, it would be incuse on the die which would suggest the die had damage in the form of flaking which has progressively worsened as striking progressed.

[joey 0]

G'day All

Thanks for your input.I could not work out how such a large piece of metal could be left.What you say makes sense.I am assuming that the coin with the largest flaw would have been getting close to the last coins from that die.Thanks again.

[Peter 615]

G'day All

Thanks for your input.I could not work out how such a large piece of metal could be left.What you say makes sense.I am assuming that the coin with the largest flaw would have been getting close to the last coins from that die.Thanks again.

Quality control appeared to be non existant so I'm sure larger flaws are out there.

[joey 0]

I suppose if there had been quality control then, it wouldn't be so interesting now.