Toned bronze?

[Accumulator 52]

This listing on eBay got me thinking.

Why is there such a following for so-called 'toned' bronze coins in the US (and Canada). Is there really any evidence whatsoever that this sort of toning can occur naturally in bronze? Personally I'm certain that it's an entirely chemically/heat induced phenomenon and, rather than a coin taking 'over 100 years', it's the result of a few minutes work by a hopeful seller hoping to rip-off an unsuspecting buyer. I don't recall seeing a bronze statue exhibit rainbow hues!

[Rob 3,152]

This listing on eBay got me thinking.

Why is there such a following for so-called 'toned' bronze coins in the US (and Canada). Is there really any evidence whatsoever that this sort of toning can occur naturally in bronze? Personally I'm certain that it's an entirely chemically/heat induced phenomenon and, rather than a coin taking 'over 100 years', it's the result of a few minutes work by a hopeful seller hoping to rip-off an unsuspecting buyer. I don't recall seeing a bronze statue exhibit rainbow hues!

The key word is not toned, but monster. That's the word you invariably see when the toning is OTT and it comes from the States. It can be chemical, it can be heat, but which ever way you look at it, it ain't natural.

The following for these coins has undoubtedly been underpinned by the TPGs slabbing them as genuine and untampered with. If they always came back as environmentally damaged, you would destroy a complete cottage industry.

[azda 979]

However you look at it, it's bloody ugly and definately man made regardless of what the seller says. I've NEVER seen a Viccie penny tone like that naturally. Also if its one of his favourite coins how come he's failed to spot its actually a Penny and not a Halfpenny in his listing title, yeah uh huh

Edited October 17, 2011 by azda

[davidrj 194]

Personally I'm certain that it's an entirely chemically/heat induced phenomenon and, rather than a coin taking 'over 100 years', it's the result of a few minutes work by a hopeful seller hoping to rip-off an unsuspecting buyer.

Next time you put your jeans in the washing machine, leave some 2010 2ps in the pocket - at least half should come out with rainbow toning, = slabbing ready

We ought to have a little competition here to see who can come up with the most monstrous result

David

Edited October 17, 2011 by davidrj

[Boomstick 0]

Wow, looks like it's been thrown up onto by a tellytubby! I suppose we should be thankful he didn't do it to a high grade coin. The MONSTER TONE makes it look like a feature on Pimp My Coin...

[Peckris 579]

This listing on eBay got me thinking.

Why is there such a following for so-called 'toned' bronze coins in the US (and Canada). Is there really any evidence whatsoever that this sort of toning can occur naturally in bronze? Personally I'm certain that it's an entirely chemically/heat induced phenomenon and, rather than a coin taking 'over 100 years', it's the result of a few minutes work by a hopeful seller hoping to rip-off an unsuspecting buyer. I don't recall seeing a bronze statue exhibit rainbow hues!

The key word is not toned, but monster. That's the word you invariably see when the toning is OTT and it comes from the States. It can be chemical, it can be heat, but which ever way you look at it, it ain't natural.

The following for these coins has undoubtedly been underpinned by the TPGs slabbing them as genuine and untampered with. If they always came back as environmentally damaged, you would destroy a complete cottage industry.

EVEN IF the toning wasn't as ugly as sin (which it is - really really horrible), you NEVER NEVER see natural toning anywhere resembling that on a coin as worn as that. It barely qualifies as Fine.

From the total lack of response, it looks like no-one is fooled, thank heaven for small mercies.

[1949threepence 3,367]

This listing on eBay got me thinking.

Why is there such a following for so-called 'toned' bronze coins in the US (and Canada). Is there really any evidence whatsoever that this sort of toning can occur naturally in bronze? Personally I'm certain that it's an entirely chemically/heat induced phenomenon and, rather than a coin taking 'over 100 years', it's the result of a few minutes work by a hopeful seller hoping to rip-off an unsuspecting buyer. I don't recall seeing a bronze statue exhibit rainbow hues!

"Well it's toning Jim, but not as we know it"

That is an absolutely hideous artifically induced abortion of an attempt at toning.

Does the would be seller just not realise that you don't get toning on already well worn coins. Real toning on UNC and near UNC bronze is a smooth thing of utter beauty.