George IV Help ID Please

[coppercop]

Here is the George IV 1827 Third Farthing, for use in Malta, according to the listing in my Mr. Perkins "Collectors' Coins GB"(what a SUPERB little book!)

[coppercop]

Last, here is the large 1-9/16th inch(sorry, mm's not on my caliper)"God Save The King" 1830 coin..cleaned I believe..if copper, it sure is "brass-like"---weighs in at 13.47 grams.

[argentumandcoins]

Your first one is an unofficial medalet or token for the coronation. There are dozens of different types for Royal events, more often than not they are death momentos though.

The last is an Isle of Man halfpenny token.

Hope that helps.

[Rob]

Next is the 1820 Half Crown..notice the washed out "Silver", leaving base metal today--weighs in at 13.47 grams.

You might have a buyer in seuk because he collects forgeries.

[Peckris]

Here are the 1822 & 1823 "Gold-Plated" Farthings...perhaps tried to be sold as "Gold" at some point to an unsuspecting buyer?

There are a lot of 'gilded' George IV farthings. I've never been quite sure if they were contemporary attempts to pass off as gold coins, or modern attempts to pass off as gilded proofs. Either way, the examples I've seen have always been high grade (like yours). For gilded coins in good condition, an approximate rule of thumb would be 1/5 to 1/3 catalogue value of the ordinary copper issue depending on eye appeal.

[coppercop]

Thanks for the help here...if Seuk, or, anybody that is in contact with him wants to let him know of the Half crown Forgery, please do..I would rather sell or trade for genuine coinage at this point.

Now, I've got to poke around and learn as much as I can on Copper itself, that is, it is imperative that I learn how to distinguish original, un-tampered copper from cleaned, and, the so-called "re-colored" copper(I have NO idea how that process is done), so, if anyone wants to share links, I sure would appreciate it. I have enough beginner's knowledge to see and spot what I believe is true copper aging patina, for the most part..I am having a harder time with the higher grade coins, and brighter colours...my hunch is to purchase slabbed coins, a few at a time, where I know they are genuine, and move slowly from there.

I really appreciate this site, and all the wonderful folks on here...A+ job & forum.

Cheers

Calvin

[Rob]

Send Seuk a PM. He's about fairly often.

[seuk]

Next is the 1820 Half Crown..notice the washed out "Silver", leaving base metal today--weighs in at 13.47 grams.

You might have a buyer in seuk because he collects forgeries.

Sure!

I think I have this variation however the reverse is better than mine - so I would be intersted in buying or trade. You can write to: seuk@mail.dk or drop me a PM