black country pub token

[headsortails 8]

hello evey body ive came across a token and am seeking info,can any body help.

[Rob 3,152]

hello evey body ive came across a token and am seeking info,can any body help.

This pub is listed in 1830 on this site as being run by Hannah Blew, and is listed in an 1891 census as being on the High Street here. I suggest you search for old Stourbidge notices which may hopefully tie the name on the token to a specific period. It's probably late 18th-early 19th century, but would need pursuing.

[Peckris 579]

hello evey body ive came across a token and am seeking info,can any body help.

This pub is listed in 1830 on this site as being run by Hannah Blew, and is listed in an 1891 census as being on the High Street here. I suggest you search for old Stourbidge notices which may hopefully tie the name on the token to a specific period. It's probably late 18th-early 19th century, but would need pursuing.

The Gothic style of lettering would place it much later than 18th Century - more like the mid-19th possibly, when the Gothic revival was at its height?

[Rob 3,152]

hello evey body ive came across a token and am seeking info,can any body help.

This pub is listed in 1830 on this site as being run by Hannah Blew, and is listed in an 1891 census as being on the High Street here. I suggest you search for old Stourbidge notices which may hopefully tie the name on the token to a specific period. It's probably late 18th-early 19th century, but would need pursuing.

The Gothic style of lettering would place it much later than 18th Century - more like the mid-19th possibly, when the Gothic revival was at its height?

I'm thinking more in line with tokens to replace non-existent currency for payment. There wasn't a shortage of currency in the mid-19th century. I would have thought that token issuing almost ceased after say 1820 having been outlawed (again) in the previous decade. The key to it will be finding out when E Jones was landlord. Census returns after 1851 will probably eliminate the last 160 years.

[Peckris 579]

hello evey body ive came across a token and am seeking info,can any body help.

This pub is listed in 1830 on this site as being run by Hannah Blew, and is listed in an 1891 census as being on the High Street here. I suggest you search for old Stourbidge notices which may hopefully tie the name on the token to a specific period. It's probably late 18th-early 19th century, but would need pursuing.

The Gothic style of lettering would place it much later than 18th Century - more like the mid-19th possibly, when the Gothic revival was at its height?

I'm thinking more in line with tokens to replace non-existent currency for payment. There wasn't a shortage of currency in the mid-19th century. I would have thought that token issuing almost ceased after say 1820 having been outlawed (again) in the previous decade. The key to it will be finding out when E Jones was landlord. Census returns after 1851 will probably eliminate the last 160 years.

That's certainly the key to it. As for tokens in general - pub tokens continued long after the general token industry had ended, and carried on into the 20th Century, used for anything from juke boxes to fruit machines to gambling where there wasn't a gambling licence, etc.

[headsortails 8]

hello evey body ive came across a token and am seeking info,can any body help.

This pub is listed in 1830 on this site as being run by Hannah Blew, and is listed in an 1891 census as being on the High Street here. I suggest you search for old Stourbidge notices which may hopefully tie the name on the token to a specific period. It's probably late 18th-early 19th century, but would need pursuing.

The Gothic style of lettering would place it much later than 18th Century - more like the mid-19th possibly, when the Gothic revival was at its height?

I'm thinking more in line with tokens to replace non-existent currency for payment. There wasn't a shortage of currency in the mid-19th century. I would have thought that token issuing almost ceased after say 1820 having been outlawed (again) in the previous decade. The key to it will be finding out when E Jones was landlord. Census returns after 1851 will probably eliminate the last 160 years.

That's certainly the key to it. As for tokens in general - pub tokens continued long after the general token industry had ended, and carried on into the 20th Century, used for anything from juke boxes to fruit machines to gambling where there wasn't a gambling licence, etc.

thank' for all input, the other side of the token has a three in side two lorel branches and the name H.Harper at the bottom.

[Rob 3,152]

In that case it could be later because 3 presumably refers to 3d which is quite a large amount for a trade token which were predominantly 1d, 1/2d and 1/4d and the H HARPER has a more modern look about it. The only reference I can find to HH is a Hearts of Oak Friendly Society (est.1842) medal to Herbert Harper dated c.1890 for services to the Society. If one and the same this would place it in the second half of the 19th century, though how much cross-over there would be between Friendly Societies and metal bashers I'm not sure. Even if a common name is pertinent, there is also a possible tradition of naming sons after past generations too which doesn't help. Davis doesn't list Harper in any of the three indices and the laurel wreath is a common design, so nothing to be gleaned there.

First port of call has to be the census records and local maps of Stourbridge High St with the various establishments noted.

[Gollum 2]

If this is not you too.

http://www.blackcountrybugle.co.uk/News/Reminder-of-long-lost-Stourbridge-inn.htm

Snap !.

The london gazette search has the old pipe inn referenced as late as 1890,

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/all=old+pipe+stourbridge/start=1 half way down.

I gave up after that as there is a lot of naughty people in that area according to court reports and it got scary, still no sign of H.Harper etc or your token. I would imagine there would be some records about as it isn't really that old to be completely out of local memories is it.

Edited January 11, 2012 by Gollum

[headsortails 8]

If this is not you too.

http://www.blackcountrybugle.co.uk/News/Reminder-of-long-lost-Stourbridge-inn.htm

Snap !.

it's not me but it is the same token im looking for someting i don't know any input

[headsortails 8]

If this is not you too.

http://www.blackcountrybugle.co.uk/News/Reminder-of-long-lost-Stourbridge-inn.htm

Snap !.

it's not me but it is the same token im looking for someting i don't know any input

sorry the token in the link is the actual token in question