GOTHIC CROWN LISTED AS A FAKE

[numismatist 2]

This comes up as a FAKE on a Google Search..Spinks 2012 gives us a warning *

"Beware of recent forgeries" Anyone know what the exact faults to look for

are as I have great difficulty in spotting any ? It worries me not knowing

[numismatist 2]

and the Reverse..sorry to large to add onto first page of post

[Chris Perkins 228]

What, so you googled 'gothic crown fake' and the images search showed that? I don't think that means it's a fake to be honest. It may just be a close match if the image is called, for example 'gothiccrown.jpg' without the word 'fake' or any indication of it being a fake. What is the source website of the image.

People seem overly jumpy about fakes at the moment. The 'Beware of recent forgeries' text in Spink has probably been included since the 1960s. I'll have to check.

[Nick 329]

This comes up as a FAKE on a Google Search..Spinks 2012 gives us a warning *

"Beware of recent forgeries" Anyone know what the exact faults to look for

are as I have great difficulty in spotting any ? It worries me not knowing

If that is a fake, which I doubt, then we are all in trouble unless there is something obvious that isn't visible in the photographs.

[Chris Perkins 228]

Found it on Flickr. Posted by CoinForgeryEbay. Who is that, can they be contacted?

Many of the other coins are clearly dud, but on who's authority is the crown also wrong?

[numismatist 2]

Its listed as being sold on Ebay August 14th 2010 by laura_5268 from China

(sometimes listed as from Hong Kong) She or he is the well known seller of the

1763 fake shillings. Nothing listed as at today but completed listing show

a good aray of fake foreign crown size coins that look pretty good to me.

Very worrying, and if you check where the Gothic Crown is shown there is

a link to forgeries seen on Ebay !! They look very concerning !!

[scott 144]

would take some doing to fake that toning though, blimey

[Oxford_Collector 0]

If those images are indeed of a forgery, it's a damn good one, which is worrying...

[argentumandcoins 70]

I sold a repro Gothic Crown on ebay last year or the year before.

It was obviously a piece made in late 19th Century and was an exact copy but on a slightly reduced flan and in a base metal.

[moneyer12 0]

our friends in shangai are quite adept at producing top quality counterfeits.

[Colin G. 147]

That is the beauty of copper and bronze, they do not seem to have mastered it yet!!

I think the problem with a lot of the fake slabs is that the coins can be genuine, but just given a false grading to increase their value!!

[Coinery 1,157]

Its listed as being sold on Ebay August 14th 2010 by laura_5268 from China

(sometimes listed as from Hong Kong) She or he is the well known seller of the

1763 fake shillings. Nothing listed as at today but completed listing show

a good aray of fake foreign crown size coins that look pretty good to me.

Very worrying, and if you check where the Gothic Crown is shown there is

a link to forgeries seen on Ebay !! They look very concerning !!

Just a thought, if you are in possession of a 'reasonably' good fake, that you had no moral issue in selling as genuine, why not list your coin with a GENUINE image? Maybe this is where a lot of the fear stems from...the 'sh*t, I would never be able to spot that myself'! Maybe some images linked to fake sales are pictures of genuine coins, spreading fear and confusion in the collectors' circles?

It's my recollection that the hardest thing for the forger to get right on these coins is the sharp, squared, lettering of the legends...they are never of the razor quality of the genuine article (at least all the one's I've seen...Seuk?). Also, the background in the reverse quarters was a stumbling point...can't recall why now, haven't bought one for quite a few years!

The legends are the big one though, the one that rules out 99% straight away!

The G Crown is shrouded in the mystery and legends of fakism, that's for sure, and has got stuck there! Good job too, they'd be worth considerably more if a more people had the confidence to buy them! I say that coming from one who holds none...I'll change my tune when I have a couple in the bag!

[seuk 85]