1916 one pence

[Hammers 0]

Hi i have found a penny that my grandad gave me from 1916 but it is different. Instead of having the usual Britannia design on the back it says " In loving memory of lord Kitcener drowned HMS Hampshire 5th june" it also has a picture of a cross. It is in very good condition, or I think so (as a person who knows nothing about coins)and I was wondering if anyone could give me a value for it?

[TomGoodheart 400]

It's difficult to tell without seeing it I'm afraid. Any chance you can post a photo? It might be a coin that has been altered, or possibly it's actually not a coin but a medallion.

You can post photos of up to 150kb size directly into replies from your computer, or if you have a photo hosting account like flikr or photobucket, you can post the link.

[Hammers 0]

I just uploaded 2 photos to photobucket, http://s1241.photobucket.com/profile/hammers133

[TomGoodheart 400]

Very nice! I hoped it might be engraved. Another member here has an interest in engraved coins and might be able to give an opinion.

In the meantime I've copied your links to make it easier for others to view.

[Hammers 0]

Tried to search this coin myself and couldnt find anything so was hoping it may be rare? Thankyou for the help and posting the link, much appreciated

[Coinery 1,148]

I just uploaded 2 photos to photobucket, http://s1241.photobucket.com/profile/hammers133

Hi Hammers, and welcome aboard!

Another very clever piece of trench art, I'd say! Though Lord knows how those poor men of WW1 every found the time or equipment to carry out some of the amazing works that are out there, it's beyond comprehension.

These pieces really are amazing collectable in my eyes, not worth anything like what they should be, given the context of their origin.

[Coinery 1,148]

Tried to search this coin myself and couldnt find anything so was hoping it may be rare? Thankyou for the help and posting the link, much appreciated

The reverse has been recessed and hand carved to pass away the hours! If you look at the reverse, you can still see the trident (3-pronged spear) at the 1 O'Clock edge, very cleverly done, but just a 'regular' 'graffitied' penny!

Edited June 16, 2012 by Coinery

[Hammers 0]

Hi Coinery, Yes they are very nice pieces but are they not worth very much then?

[Coinery 1,148]

Hi Coinery, Yes they are very nice pieces but are they not worth very much then?

Don't order a Ferrari! There are a few others on here with their fingers much more on the pulse, price wise, I'm sure they'll be adding to this shortly!

[Hammers 0]

haha it's always nice to dream, could do with a Ferrari. I just wnated to find out more information about the coin to be honest as it looked unusual and I wasn't sure if it could be worth anything.

[Peckris 579]

Very nice! I hoped it might be engraved. Another member here has an interest in engraved coins and might be able to give an opinion.

In the meantime I've copied your links to make it easier for others to view.

Damn! Couldn't they have found a non-recessed ear variety to engrave??

[argentumandcoins 70]

haha it's always nice to dream, could do with a Ferrari. I just wnated to find out more information about the coin to be honest as it looked unusual and I wasn't sure if it could be worth anything.

You can't price something that is unique, and all of these types are unique.

If the subject matter was more appealing it could do £100+, I would guess yours would be in the £20-£50 region though.

[Hammers 0]

haha it's always nice to dream, could do with a Ferrari. I just wnated to find out more information about the coin to be honest as it looked unusual and I wasn't sure if it could be worth anything.

You can't price something that is unique, and all of these types are unique.

If the subject matter was more appealing it could do £100+, I would guess yours would be in the £20-£50 region though.

So are they all one off pieces?

[azda 979]

haha it's always nice to dream, could do with a Ferrari. I just wnated to find out more information about the coin to be honest as it looked unusual and I wasn't sure if it could be worth anything.

You can't price something that is unique, and all of these types are unique.

If the subject matter was more appealing it could do £100+, I would guess yours would be in the £20-£50 region though.

So are they all one off pieces?

Yes, each being engraved by individuals. Its a nice piece and maybe worth hanging onto unless you are really desperate to sell. These engraved coins are finding their way into the market, but not quite popular just yet.

[Hammers 0]

haha it's always nice to dream, could do with a Ferrari. I just wnated to find out more information about the coin to be honest as it looked unusual and I wasn't sure if it could be worth anything.

You can't price something that is unique, and all of these types are unique.

If the subject matter was more appealing it could do £100+, I would guess yours would be in the £20-£50 region though.

So are they all one off pieces?

Yes, each being engraved by individuals. Its a nice piece and maybe worth hanging onto unless you are really desperate to sell. These engraved coins are finding their way into the market, but not quite popular just yet.

Wasn't planning on selling it just came across it yesterday and wanted to find out more. It's nice to know that I have a one off piece but i'm surprised that a single person could engrave it with such detail and precision.

[argentumandcoins 70]

haha it's always nice to dream, could do with a Ferrari. I just wnated to find out more information about the coin to be honest as it looked unusual and I wasn't sure if it could be worth anything.

You can't price something that is unique, and all of these types are unique.

If the subject matter was more appealing it could do £100+, I would guess yours would be in the £20-£50 region though.

So are they all one off pieces?

Yes, each being engraved by individuals. Its a nice piece and maybe worth hanging onto unless you are really desperate to sell. These engraved coins are finding their way into the market, but not quite popular just yet.

Wasn't planning on selling it just came across it yesterday and wanted to find out more. It's nice to know that I have a one off piece but i'm surprised that a single person could engrave it with such detail and precision.

Yours is quite crude compared to some. I just had a George V threepence sell yesterday that had been engraved with the entire Lords Prayer, now that is intricate work!

[Hammers 0]

wow, that must have been microscopic!

I have a list of other coins if anyone could tell me if they are rare or not?

-one penny for 1913 and one from 1964

-a George V king emperor one rupee from 1918

-a 50 pence from 1994 but on the tales side it has fighter jets and war ships

-half crown 1948

-Three pence from 1955 and 1943

[Accumulator 52]

Very nice! I hoped it might be engraved. Another member here has an interest in engraved coins and might be able to give an opinion.

In the meantime I've copied your links to make it easier for others to view.

Damn! Couldn't they have found a non-recessed ear variety to engrave??

That'll be the exceedingly rare recessed ear variety without the broken border tooth then?

[Peter 615]

For those that are interested just do a google search ...images on Hobo tokens.

[argentumandcoins 70]

wow, that must have been microscopic!

I have a list of other coins if anyone could tell me if they are rare or not?

-one penny for 1913 and one from 1964

-a George V king emperor one rupee from 1918

-a 50 pence from 1994 but on the tales side it has fighter jets and war ships

-half crown 1948

-Three pence from 1955 and 1943

Not, unfortunately.

[Debbie 58]

Hi Hammers – nice engraved coin you have there. Personally I think it may be worth a little more as it refers to an actual historical event which happened on the same year as the coin itself. here

If you can find out how your grandfather came by the coin and discover the story behind the coin this will add more value,1916 in the scheme of things is not that far back.

Engraved coins are becoming more popular and I would imagine if you put that on ebay today you might get around £100 – more you can provide a history and if someone was particularly interested in Maritime history. However as anything fashionable, do this in 5 years time you may get substantially more or less.

[Peckris 579]

wow, that must have been microscopic!

I have a list of other coins if anyone could tell me if they are rare or not?

-one penny for 1913 and one from 1964

-a George V king emperor one rupee from 1918

-a 50 pence from 1994 but on the tales side it has fighter jets and war ships

-half crown 1948

-Three pence from 1955 and 1943

The 1943 three pence stands a chance, but only if it's a silver 3d and in high grade, and even then we're not talking megabucks!

Very nice! I hoped it might be engraved. Another member here has an interest in engraved coins and might be able to give an opinion.

In the meantime I've copied your links to make it easier for others to view.

Damn! Couldn't they have found a non-recessed ear variety to engrave??

That'll be the exceedingly rare recessed ear variety without the broken border tooth then?

I have no idea? It's a recessed ear anyway.

[Accumulator 52]

wow, that must have been microscopic!

I have a list of other coins if anyone could tell me if they are rare or not?

-one penny for 1913 and one from 1964

-a George V king emperor one rupee from 1918

-a 50 pence from 1994 but on the tales side it has fighter jets and war ships

-half crown 1948

-Three pence from 1955 and 1943

The 1943 three pence stands a chance, but only if it's a silver 3d and in high grade, and even then we're not talking megabucks!

Very nice! I hoped it might be engraved. Another member here has an interest in engraved coins and might be able to give an opinion.

In the meantime I've copied your links to make it easier for others to view.

Damn! Couldn't they have found a non-recessed ear variety to engrave??

That'll be the exceedingly rare recessed ear variety without the broken border tooth then?

I have no idea? It's a recessed ear anyway.

I believe current wisdom is that all recessed ear pennies from 1915 & 1916 have the chipped tooth by the I of BRITT. I searched this forum and noted you had posted your own 1915 example which also exhibits the chipped tooth. There maybe those that don't, but certainly VR Court doesn't mention any.

[Peckris 579]

wow, that must have been microscopic!

I have a list of other coins if anyone could tell me if they are rare or not?

-one penny for 1913 and one from 1964

-a George V king emperor one rupee from 1918

-a 50 pence from 1994 but on the tales side it has fighter jets and war ships

-half crown 1948

-Three pence from 1955 and 1943

The 1943 three pence stands a chance, but only if it's a silver 3d and in high grade, and even then we're not talking megabucks!

Very nice! I hoped it might be engraved. Another member here has an interest in engraved coins and might be able to give an opinion.

In the meantime I've copied your links to make it easier for others to view.

Damn! Couldn't they have found a non-recessed ear variety to engrave??

That'll be the exceedingly rare recessed ear variety without the broken border tooth then?

I have no idea? It's a recessed ear anyway.

I believe current wisdom is that all recessed ear pennies from 1915 & 1916 have the chipped tooth by the I of BRITT. I searched this forum and noted you had posted your own 1915 example which also exhibits the chipped tooth. There maybe those that don't, but certainly VR Court doesn't mention any.

The tooth by the I is very indistinct, so it could be a half tooth I guess? The characterics of the obverse appear to be those of a recessed ear, but with major surgery to the reverse, it's not clear cut I suppose.

[Hammers 0]

wow, that must have been microscopic!

I have a list of other coins if anyone could tell me if they are rare or not?

-one penny for 1913 and one from 1964

-a George V king emperor one rupee from 1918

-a 50 pence from 1994 but on the tales side it has fighter jets and war ships

-half crown 1948

-Three pence from 1955 and 1943

The 1943 three pence stands a chance, but only if it's a silver 3d and in high grade, and even then we're not talking megabucks!

Very nice! I hoped it might be engraved. Another member here has an interest in engraved coins and might be able to give an opinion.

In the meantime I've copied your links to make it easier for others to view.

Damn! Couldn't they have found a non-recessed ear variety to engrave??

That'll be the exceedingly rare recessed ear variety without the broken border tooth then?

I have no idea? It's a recessed ear anyway.

I believe current wisdom is that all recessed ear pennies from 1915 & 1916 have the chipped tooth by the I of BRITT. I searched this forum and noted you had posted your own 1915 example which also exhibits the chipped tooth. There maybe those that don't, but certainly VR Court doesn't mention any.

The tooth by the I is very indistinct, so it could be a half tooth I guess? The characterics of the obverse appear to be those of a recessed ear, but with major surgery to the reverse, it's not clear cut I suppose.

what is 'the tooth' and what is a 'recessed ear'? I know near enough nothing about coins haha.