1850 /46 Victoria Shilling NGC Encapsulated

NewShillingCollector · August 22, 2012

this pic is 61kb.
I have had a quick look at some 1846 shillings and at a quick glance all seem to have the 6 lower than the 4 this would put the digit under the 0 of the 1850 too high to be a six. Like I said a quick look and have to look at some 1849 and 50's if I can find any pics!
Here is the link for the images. Please note that we will still provide a link when we have the clearer picture.
The password is predecimal (all lower case).
http://www.photobucket.com/185046
Here is an 1846, 1849 and an 1850 we found. Also put in photobucket. Thanks!!!

***For Comparing our 1850/46 ...PICS of 1846, 1849, and 1850 "Plain" Dates***

Gary · August 22, 2012

this pic is 61kb.
***For Comparing our 1850/46 ...PICS of 1846, 1849, and 1850 "Plain" Dates***

sorry but they are way too small to do anything with. The 1850 pic is 121x48 pixels and just 6kb of data. You have obviously cut the dates out of an existing pic which in its self must have been quite small.

To have anything workable then the date pics have to be at least 500 pixels in width. If you are using a camera use the largest pic setting and get it as close to the coin as poss, if you are scanning use the highest resolution setting to

obtain the largest pic possible and then cut the dates outs into a seperate pic. In any photo editing software you have an option to save as .jpeg which will tell you the size of the saved file and allow you to compress

it to a given data size ie 150kb. If the quality of the pic is reduced too much by the compression then reduce the size of the original pic (usually under "Image" and then "Size" or "Resize"), say the original is 1000x500 pixels then reduce it to 500x250 this way you reduce the data size by half (not quite true but good enough) and then save as .jpeg.

Example- The pic of the 1850 shilling from azda above is 1024x1009 pixels and has a file size of 372kb and I bet he has reduced that before posting it.

Edited August 22, 2012 by Gary

argentumandcoins · August 22, 2012

Ahhh Sorry Stuart. Here in Germany we get massages on the NHS. I have a problem with my neck and spine, normally the discs are 10mm apart, mine are only 5mm due to working at the airport at one time throwing 20 kilo suitcases into the hold and very little room to do it. So now i get massages to try and stretch the 5 & 6 neck disc.
I did try the Chinese guy to though, he was much better but cost â‚¬35 for 30 mins which was'nt on the NHS unfortunately and he kept sticking needles in me

You should have phoned MP David, I'm sure he would have stuck needles in you for free!

azda · August 22, 2012

I think he has a doll figure of me somewhere John as he's changed his eBay name again

Peckris · August 22, 2012

this pic is 61kb.
***For Comparing our 1850/46 ...PICS of 1846, 1849, and 1850 "Plain" Dates***
sorry but they are way too small to do anything with. The 1850 pic is 121x48 pixels and just 6kb of data. You have obviously cut the dates out of an existing pic which in its self must have been quite small.
To have anything workable then the date pics have to be at least 500 pixels in width. If you are using a camera use the largest pic setting and get it as close to the coin as poss, if you are scanning use the highest resolution setting to
obtain the largest pic possible and then cut the dates outs into a seperate pic. In any photo editing software you have an option to save as .jpeg which will tell you the size of the saved file and allow you to compress
it to a given data size ie 150kb. If the quality of the pic is reduced too much by the compression then reduce the size of the original pic (usually under "Image" and then "Size" or "Resize"), say the original is 1000x500 pixels then reduce it to 500x250 this way you reduce the data size by half (not quite true but good enough) and then save as .jpeg.
Example- The pic of the 1850 shilling from azda above is 1024x1009 pixels and has a file size of 372kb and I bet he has reduced that before posting it.

Photoshop's compression scale runs from 1 (awful) to 12 (virtually uncompressed). Needless to say, the smaller the number, the higher the compression and the smaller the file. In my own experience, if you're displaying on a computer screen - i.e. not printing - you can reduce an existing large picture to 5 on the scale without seeing very much in the way of deterioration. Make sure that you do any Size reduction and PPI reduction and Cropping at the same time, then save.

NewShillingCollector · August 22, 2012

this pic is 61kb.
***For Comparing our 1850/46 ...PICS of 1846, 1849, and 1850 "Plain" Dates***
Good Morning!
Thanks for the upload info, appreciate it. Yes, found these online and now know they are too small. Did you check photobucket? Assume same issue there.
We will just wait for our new magnifier and post ours a
ASAP. I guess we need to start a new topic? Cannot seem to locate where we can add to our original post.
Also, as an FYI, we the dates using yahoo..com, and searching "date shilling".
Have a great day!
sorry but they are way too small to do anything with. The 1850 pic is 121x48 pixels and just 6kb of data. You have obviously cut the dates out of an existing pic which in its self must have been quite small.
To have anything workable then the date pics have to be at least 500 pixels in width. If you are using a camera use the largest pic setting and get it as close to the coin as poss, if you are scanning use the highest resolution setting to
obtain the largest pic possible and then cut the dates outs into a seperate pic. In any photo editing software you have an option to save as .jpeg which will tell you the size of the saved file and allow you to compress
it to a given data size ie 150kb. If the quality of the pic is reduced too much by the compression then reduce the size of the original pic (usually under "Image" and then "Size" or "Resize"), say the original is 1000x500 pixels then reduce it to 500x250 this way you reduce the data size by half (not quite true but good enough) and then save as .jpeg.
Example- The pic of the 1850 shilling from azda above is 1024x1009 pixels and has a file size of 372kb and I bet he has reduced that before posting it.

Red Riley · August 22, 2012

Hey dudes, what's going on? Patchouli is still a hippie fragrance of choice, I think it's amazing!
It's still very much used, blended with sweet almond oil, as a slippery soup to rub all over your beloved in the loving hours! Rumour did have it, Dave, that you were yourself partaking in said slippery rubdown, pre your image post!
I think I might just have to join a circus, nobody gets my humour on here!

Remember it well. For reasons best known to her, a girl I worked with dumped some in my umbrella. Used to get very strange looks when it rained...

Gary · August 22, 2012

If you are using a camera use the largest pic setting and get it as close to the coin as poss, if you are scanning use the highest resolution setting to
obtain the largest pic possible and then cut the dates outs into a seperate pic. In any photo editing software you have an option to save as .jpeg which will tell you the size of the saved file and allow you to compress
it to a given data size ie 150kb. If the quality of the pic is reduced too much by the compression then reduce the size of the original pic (usually under "Image" and then "Size" or "Resize"), say the original is 1000x500 pixels then reduce it to 500x250 this way you reduce the data size by half (not quite true but good enough) and then save as .jpeg.
Example- The pic of the 1850 shilling from azda above is 1024x1009 pixels and has a file size of 372kb and I bet he has reduced that before posting it.
Photoshop's compression scale runs from 1 (awful) to 12 (virtually uncompressed). Needless to say, the smaller the number, the higher the compression and the smaller the file. In my own experience, if you're displaying on a computer screen - i.e. not printing - you can reduce an existing large picture to 5 on the scale without seeing very much in the way of deterioration. Make sure that you do any Size reduction and PPI reduction and Cropping at the same time, then save.

Refuse to pay that sort of money for Photoshop, I use a free program called paint.net which I believe comes from micrsoft, when you save to .jpeg it gives you a sliding scale from 100% down to 0% and shows you the file size as you adjust. It also has many functions of expensive programs such as the ability to work with layers and much more. If anyones interested you can get it here paint.net

Peckris · August 22, 2012

Hey dudes, what's going on? Patchouli is still a hippie fragrance of choice, I think it's amazing!
It's still very much used, blended with sweet almond oil, as a slippery soup to rub all over your beloved in the loving hours! Rumour did have it, Dave, that you were yourself partaking in said slippery rubdown, pre your image post!
I think I might just have to join a circus, nobody gets my humour on here!
Remember it well. For reasons best known to her, a girl I worked with dumped some in my umbrella. Used to get very strange looks when it rained...

Bus stop bus stop, she's there waiting, under my umbrella...

Peckris · August 22, 2012

If you are using a camera use the largest pic setting and get it as close to the coin as poss, if you are scanning use the highest resolution setting to
obtain the largest pic possible and then cut the dates outs into a seperate pic. In any photo editing software you have an option to save as .jpeg which will tell you the size of the saved file and allow you to compress
it to a given data size ie 150kb. If the quality of the pic is reduced too much by the compression then reduce the size of the original pic (usually under "Image" and then "Size" or "Resize"), say the original is 1000x500 pixels then reduce it to 500x250 this way you reduce the data size by half (not quite true but good enough) and then save as .jpeg.
Example- The pic of the 1850 shilling from azda above is 1024x1009 pixels and has a file size of 372kb and I bet he has reduced that before posting it.
Photoshop's compression scale runs from 1 (awful) to 12 (virtually uncompressed). Needless to say, the smaller the number, the higher the compression and the smaller the file. In my own experience, if you're displaying on a computer screen - i.e. not printing - you can reduce an existing large picture to 5 on the scale without seeing very much in the way of deterioration. Make sure that you do any Size reduction and PPI reduction and Cropping at the same time, then save.
Refuse to pay that sort of money for Photoshop, I use a free program called paint.net which I believe comes from micrsoft, when you save to .jpeg it gives you a sliding scale from 100% down to 0% and shows you the file size as you adjust. It also has many functions of expensive programs such as the ability to work with layers and much more. If anyones interested you can get it here paint.net

Actually, Photoshop Elements can do a whole load of stuff, but only costs a fraction of the full Photoshop. About 80% of the program for less than 20% of the cost. Also, Elements is cross-platform, which I suspect paint.net is not. For Mac users, there's Pixelmator, which supports layers and filters and text and a whole lot more, looks gorgeous, and only costs around Â£20. The GIMP is a nightmare to learn but it's free and open source and just as powerful as Photoshop.

VickySilver · August 22, 2012

Not superclear image. IMO the overdate will not exceed greatly the value of non-overdate be it 50/49 or possibly 50/46. I think faint "overage" of Victorian smaller silver much more common overall than commonly supposed.

Still, any 1850 shilling commands a bit of respect. An American slab grade of 35 is supposed to be an higher level of VF, not VG.

NewShillingCollector · August 24, 2012

You never mentioned the NGC grade, although American TPGs are a little less strict than UKs grading service.
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