Are the Chinese faking these now

[Peckris 579]

1792 countermarked dollar

1763 Northumberland shilling

1763 Northumberland shilling II

1864 florin

1893 sixpence

The ones that are actually described as "replicates" (sic) are pretty obvious fakes, to be honest. The most worrying item there is the florin.

[Paulus 1,975]

1792 countermarked dollar

1763 Northumberland shilling

1763 Northumberland shilling II

1864 florin

1893 sixpence

The ones that are actually described as "replicates" (sic) are pretty obvious fakes, to be honest. The most worrying item there is the florin.

Good work Seuk!

Yes the florin seems the least unconvincing, here it is for anyone who wants to avoid visiting this horrible site and having nightmares!

Obverse digs in the same place as Dinsdale's!

Edited December 17, 2012 by Paulus

[declanwmagee 122]

so does it have the same abrasions as Roy's 1864 examples?

ah - just saw your edit!

Edited December 16, 2012 by declanwmagee

[azda 979]

Just need to find the gothic crowns on there and we'll have tied up dinsdale to a fecking pole the arsehole

Is that florin die 64? Can't see from the aye phone

Edited December 16, 2012 by azda

[Paulus 1,975]

Just need to find the gothic crowns on there and we'll have tied up dinsdale to a fecking pole the arsehole

Is that florin die 64? Can't see from the aye phone

Sure is!

Edited December 16, 2012 by Paulus

[ski 1]

yes dave its die #64.

[azda 979]

Bang to rights the Mr Dinsdale...... Mofo....

So he was buying at $59.99 which is around £38 and they were selling on eBay at around the £100, in total he sold 12 from August to october thats around £744 profit less the eBay fees on those 12 Coins alone

Edited December 16, 2012 by azda

[ski 1]

and heres a recent email i got from roy

I hope you don't mind this attempt at marketing to you.

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>I am writing to you because you have bought coins from me at my main EBay

>site - roydinsdaleuk and although you will hopefully continue to find some

>real bargains there, I thought you might like to know that I have started

>an additional site, working with my son (who shares my passion for

>collectables) called Stampinvestor1952

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>Despite the name, you will see both coins and stamps and, in particular,

>some real bargains. All our lots start at 99p and are all auctions.

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>You will see that we have a lot of Silver British Coins and Royal Mint

>proof sets - all tremendous bargains, with the Silver coins all starting

>massively below their silver content.

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>Here are links to two examples

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>_http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251196524574&ssPageNam

>e=STRK:MESE:IT_

>(http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251196524574&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT)

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>_http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251199269300&ssPageNam

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>(http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251199269300&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT)

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>I hope you will have a look and perhaps even save Stampinvestor1952 as a

>favourite seller, at the very least you might find a bargain or two.

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>Do let me have your thoughts too - feedback of any sort is welcome and

>might help me improve service on the main operation.

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>Regards

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>Roy

im sorry but i feel i cannot give any support to anyone who has a history of marketing items that are clearley forgeries, as original. Youve sold rare coins at the values (hundreds if not thousands) of original items, that simply arent worth anything at all. when this was discovered, you initially denied it, lied about it. but then conceded, that you did sell these items. BUT NEVER DID YOU OFFER TO RE-IMBURSE THOSE WHO YOU HAD SOLD FAKES TO.

and when pressed for an answer to the question " would you be contacting those people you had mis-sold to" you said NO........anyone looking at this email should seriously take a look at the pre-decimal.com forum and the coincommunity.com forums to see the extensive discussions that have taken place with regard to this sellers forgeries.

ski

[azda 979]

He's maybe gearing up to sell the forgeries (which he probably still has) under the other username. You should have sent him the alibaba link to the 1864 florin and said that we found now where he was buying them

In the councinmubity forum someone commented that he'd been selling fake spanish 8 reales, this other seller he's touting is selling on here 251200540790 add link please

Is that on alibaba i wonder

Edited December 17, 2012 by azda

[ski 1]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251200540790;jsessionid=7BCF898B1A886AE2F333C53081BA9FA1?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D251200540790%26_rdc%3D1

yes he seems to have sold plenty of these, maybe 4 different dates, possibly more.

ski

[ski 1]

how about this for a very ordinary piece.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/579122854/2012_Britannia_Silver_Coin.html

[Peter 615]

Absolute sham.

All we can do is name and shame anyone who tries to pass these off.

On another forum a TPG company was being blamed for slabbing a fake...it turn out the slab was fake too.

[azda 979]

Absolute sham.

All we can do is name and shame anyone who tries to pass these off.

On another forum a TPG company was being blamed for slabbing a fake...it turn out the slab was fake too.

You might want to Pass in the link to coincommunity forum Peter of the 1864 florin, especially to andyg and Point out that its also from China and not some other foreign field. I know how he hates to be wrong, but this time we're right. I'd do it myself but the prix banned me for f all

[Coinery 1,153]

Absolute sham.

All we can do is name and shame anyone who tries to pass these off.

On another forum a TPG company was being blamed for slabbing a fake...it turn out the slab was fake too.

You might want to Pass in the link to coincommunity forum Peter of the 1864 florin, especially to andyg and Point out that its also from China and not some other foreign field. I know how he hates to be wrong, but this time we're right. I'd do it myself but the prix banned me for f all

Barred! Well, Dave, you DO surprise me! You should be proud!

[Peter 615]

I've had a yellow card

[azda 979]

I've had a yellow card

Lol

[azda 979]

Absolute sham.

All we can do is name and shame anyone who tries to pass these off.

On another forum a TPG company was being blamed for slabbing a fake...it turn out the slab was fake too.

You might want to Pass in the link to coincommunity forum Peter of the 1864 florin, especially to andyg and Point out that its also from China and not some other foreign field. I know how he hates to be wrong, but this time we're right. I'd do it myself but the prix banned me for f all

Barred! Well, Dave, you DO surprise me! You should be proud!

Stuart i got banned for basically standing up against fakes and one tit saying that roydinsdales admission of guilt was no admission of guilt by andyg, i cannot take seriously a tool who thinks that an admission by the perp is in fact not a guilty plea, the guy is a tool. Then i was told i was alienating an entire nation by calling them CHINESE fakes.........OMFG!!!!!!! sorry eh..........Completre numpties over there.